On 1/31/08, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
You do realise the head of the translator committee is
banned from
ja:wp due to personal disagreements? Communities have attacks of
batshit insane, and that's too much power to hand to one project.
Yes, and did you read my email a little bit more careful? :)
Andres:
- en.wp lifted ban under pressure of its own community.
- If they didn't do that, they would have to do that after implementing SUL.
- If they knew that their decision would affect all other wikis, they
wouldn't be so crazy to do that.
About en-wpization of the community: This is just an unreasonable
fear. Some of very important en-Wikipedians didn't pass even voting
for adminship on Meta. Policy like this would initiate much more
participation of member of a lot of different Wikimedian projects into
Meta issues.
On 1/31/08, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote:
A logical extension of Milos' proposal could arise
if someone
persistently insisted on pushing a Serbian POV on hr:wp. The Croatians
would become very annoyed with this until that individual met one of the
criteria which Milos suggests. They would block him, and the logical
consequence would then be that he should also be blocked on sr:wp.
Somehow, I don't see that this would necessarily be an acceptable result.
sr/hr is not the main issue (usually, the same vandals and trolls are
blocked on both Wikipedias); the main issue are POV pushers on en.wp
who are spreading their own POV on their own, smaller projects; and,
consequently, building heavy POV community; as well as unacceptable
behaviors of some other communities -- which are completely out of the
scope of WM goals.
Lodewijk: All great ideas were unacceptable at the beginning :)))