2008/11/26 David Yellope <sirfozzie(a)gmail.com>om>: I've been suggesting on wikien-l something like trying to work out, with actual numbers, what article readers would reasonably be expecting where. This led to suggesting an idea on wikitech-l on how to gather internal referer logs (where people go from one article to another, or what searches lead to what articles) in a way that won't breach privacy. Such information would be of great general use in seeing what readers actually want and do, rather than attempting to guess. So it's far from a fruitless discussion. - d.

If we could get something that reads the searches and tabulates the most frequently not found articles, we could better target our account creation efforts. ________________________________ From: David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:08:30 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Trouble in Ireland 2008/11/26 David Yellope <sirfozzie(a)gmail.com>om>: I've been suggesting on wikien-l something like trying to work out, with actual numbers, what article readers would reasonably be expecting where. This led to suggesting an idea on wikitech-l on how to gather internal referer logs (where people go from one article to another, or what searches lead to what articles) in a way that won't breach privacy. Such information would be of great general use in seeing what readers actually want and do, rather than attempting to guess. So it's far from a fruitless discussion. - d. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

The thing that I am thinking of would only list things are searched over 150 times in a set period, no privacy concerns necessary ________________________________ From: David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Trouble in Ireland 2008/11/27 Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com>om>: Hence my suggestion on wikitech-l :-) Logging referers as well as the name of the page hit wouldn't load the current logging significantly. Only logging referers that are in article space or Special:Search (with the search) would guard against most possible privacy problems. (Greg Maxwell noted that people may enter private identifying data into Special:Search which would then be logged. Possibly might warrant a warning note on Special:Search.) What it needs now is someone writing code to log and to analyse and present the logs, and the code being approved ;-) - d. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l