Thanks, MZMcBride.
This is a really cool feature, which seems helpful for a wide range of different uses.
Kudos to Madman, Krenair and everyone who made this possible!
Fabrice
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2. Re: Info action (Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation)
3. Re: Info action (Risker)
4. Re: Info action (Richard Symonds)
5. Re: Info action (David Gerard)
6. Re: Info action (Andy Mabbett)
7. Re: Info action (Thomas Morton)
8. Re: Info action (Przykuta)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 -0400
From: MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com>
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It
is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads
to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to
performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly
forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and
others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information
dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the
page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal
page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat
dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some
users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the
number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the
deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this
nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable
resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from
the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action
(it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this
list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
MZMcBride
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:59:49 +0000
From: "Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation"
<pbeaudette(a)wikimedia.org>
To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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Now that's just cool...
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Philippe Beaudette
Director, Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc
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Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It
is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads
to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to
performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly
forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and
others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information
dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the
page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal
page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat
dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some
users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the
number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the
deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this
nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable
resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from
the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action
(it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this
list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
MZMcBride
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:04:21 -0400
From: Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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Concur with Philippe. Thanks for letting us know about this.
Risker
On 22 October 2012 17:59, Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation <
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Now that's just cool...
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Director, Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It
is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads
to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to
performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly
forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and
others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information
dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the
page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal
page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat
dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some
users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the
number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the
deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this
nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable
resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from
the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action
(it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail
this
list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
MZMcBride
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:59:50 +0100
From: Richard Symonds <richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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MZMcBride,
This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is,
but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be
a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the
servers, so it may well be unworkable...
It's also be useful to be able to see how many editors, authors etc there
were in the past 24 hours - again, I'm not sure if this is doable, but I
thought I'd throw it out there!
Richard Symonds/Chase me ladies
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:
Hi.
This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link
in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It
is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads
to a newly reimplemented info action:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info
Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to
performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly
forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and
others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information
dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users.
This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the
page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal
page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat
dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some
users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the
number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the
deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this
nature.
The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable
resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from
the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action
(it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail
this
list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>.
MZMcBride
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:15:25 +0100
From: David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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On 23 October 2012 10:59, Richard Symonds
<richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm
not sure how related this is,
but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be
a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the
servers, so it may well be unworkable...
History pages on en:wp already have a link to stats.grok.se, shouldn't
be hard to put such a link here as well.
- d.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:29:34 +0100
From: Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride <z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:
This is just a heads-up that you'll start
seeing a "Page information" link
in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
This sounds like a really useful feature.
for some users (such as administrators), certain
additional fields (such
as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
--
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:45:49 +0100
From: Thomas Morton <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com>
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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On 23 October 2012 11:29, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride
<z(a)mzmcbride.com> wrote:
This is just a heads-up that you'll start
seeing a "Page information"
link
in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the
coming days on Wikimedia wikis.
This sounds like a really useful feature.
for some users (such as administrators), certain
additional fields (such
as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to
avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise.
Tom
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:53:42 +0200
From: Przykuta <przykuta(a)o2.pl>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action
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for some users (such as administrators), certain
additional fields (such
as the number of page watchers) will be displayed.
Why is this for admins only?
For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to
avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise.
Tom
This tool is not only for admins:
http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/watcher/?db=enwiki_p&titles=Main_Page
;)
But it works, if number of watchers > 30
Przykuta
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