I believe Wikiversity has already gone as far as it can go under the banner of Wikibooks. The layout for the entire site is already there. I just don't think any further delay is going to be helpful to either project - Wikiversity is never going to go any further with the low rate of contributions to Wikibooks, whereas if it does take off seperately, it may be able to boost Wikibooks up too. As with all our other projects - once we create the wiki, and link to it from the pedia, the content will come. I'd also be very wary about using the term "degree", though. IMO, Wikiversity should just be a place where you can do courses to learn stuff, and help teach other people in your areas of skill. The latter area would also be vital, as the faculties would be the perfect place to coordinate the putting together of textbooks that made any coherent sense. If we tried to go any further than this sort of structure (i.e. getting into "degree" territory), we'd get into a fairly messy area which I see no reason to go. Questions such as providing help, I believe, could be addressed once the seperate wiki was live. The most obvious answers there would be email and IRC, but I'm sure there's other ways of solving that one too. Ec asks how we would be able to determine that a student has completed the required work, and indeed, this is going to be one important area to work out. Would we set specific tasks, that would then be handed in, or would it be more of a self-learning thing, with textbooks and then people on hand to assist you if you need help? I don't think a Wikiversity is going to be superior to a traditional university, as such (although there's the potential for much more interesting courses, based on the current content of Wikibooks!) The difference is that it will be free, it will be wiki, and it will be something new. In other words, a logical extension of where we are now. I believe we can pull it off, but I also believe that we'll be waiting to eternity if we expect the textbooks to come first. The answer is to use the faculty system on Wikiversity as a basis for creating them - and for that, we need people - which means a seperate wiki.