The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all Wikipedias?

I think it is "unfair" that I can read about Simpsons episodes in the English Wikipedia, while those how speak Hebrew cannot.

Amir Elisha Aharoni wrote: No, because we are not able to reach a concensus across all the language communities. Thus each project community should reach their own concensus. Personally I find this diversity also a very good thing because one can always get ideas from other projects, good ones to follow, bad ones to avoid or to change. correct. And in the example BLP the resolution of the board is purposefully so soft. It only urges the communities to notice the problem and to take care about it, it didn't say what each individual community must do, in respect of the autonomy of the projects. No, this is the ideal state. Actually I don't like written rules. Rules are dead things and often they don't really fit to the actual situation. If one can discuss every case and reach a concensus without a fix rule this is for me the best case. But this only works in a relatively small community and doesn't fit a very big and diverse community. -- Ting Ting's Blog: http://wingphilopp.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

The question is - shouldn't there be one set of standards for all Wikipedias? I think it is "unfair" that I can read about Simpsons episodes in the English Wikipedia, while those how speak Hebrew cannot.

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Yoni Weiden <yonidebest(a)gmail.com> wrote: episodes

My experience is that people outside of Wikipedia community (the pure users or people that only heard of Wikipedia) in Germany don't differentiate between the qualities of the language versions. I don't think that the quality of the German Wikipedia had the impact on the outreach to government or libraries. It is more the organization and professionalism of the chapter. Personally I don't think that take the classical encyclopedia as a measure is a good thing. The classical encyclopedia was restrained on the unpossibility of to print books in such big volumes. An electronic encyclopedia has far more possibilities and if we take an old fashioned measure as our measurement we artificially abondane some of the possibilities that the new technology offer us. -- Ting

effe iets anders wrote: sorrowfully I don't know dutch and nl-wp, so I cannot say about why the dutch people would prefer en-wp. Maybe one of the reason is also because most dutch people are really multilinguals. There are a few reasons why some german would go for en-wp but not de-wp. The first reason is history. Historically en-wp had more content and was better. de-wp had catch up a lot in the last two years. But if you had mostly used en-wp earlier, you would probably remain there and think it is still so. This is not so, I quite sure know that. I translate a lot of articles to zh-wp. Three years ago most of the translations come from en-wp. Now I even think I use more de-wp as basis for the translation than the en-wp. I think the threshold of notability (where in de-wp is far more higher than in en-wp). Say, I am interested in Simpsons, I would definitively go to en-wp which have far more content about topic as in de-wp. Not all peole search internet for information because they want to do research work. Most of people do it because they are simply interested in something, a place, a person or a movie, a game. In these cases a language version like the en-wp with a lower notability threshold is more useful. -- Ting Ting's Blog: http://wingphilopp.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

i.e. "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire" episode is published in no less than 15 languages. Above policy means that the creation of this article should be allowed in he-wp, and not deleted due to insignificance in the eyes of 57% of the he-wp community. The bottom line is that the Hebrew language should have a wikipedia article about said episode, and if the community does not agree, it should be forced. Why forced? because this situation is just ridiculous. 15 community languages think this article is worth a page, but the he-wp community knows best. I think not.