I would not consider the dumps to be backups. They are for purposes of
mirroring, research, analysis, offline reading and bot processing among
other things, but as a backup of our data they fall short. Not only are
they not up to the minute but they do not contain private data, as they are
intended for public use.
I should note here, though IANAL, that any restrictions that may be placed
on US government communications do not of course apply to the private
sector.
Having said that, I would like also to see offline backups happen, for
various reasons.
Ariel
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are:
https://dumps.wikimedia.org/mirrors.html
and three out of
four of them are outside U.S.
Best
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:26 PM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> Hoi,
> No they are not backed up outside the USA. I am not so sure there are off
> line backups/
> Thanks,
> GerardM
> On 27 January 2017 at 10:10, Peter
Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net
>
> wrote:
> > I hope the servers are backed up
outside the USA in at least two places
> > and that the data is also backed up off-line somewhere to make it
> > unhackable.
> > Cheers,
> > Peyer
>
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> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > Behalf Of Romaine Wiki
> > Sent: Friday, 27 January 2017 5:34 AM
> > To: Wikimedia
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general
>
> > Today I was reading in the
(international) news about websites with
> > knowledge on the topic of climate change disappear from the internet as
> > result of the Trump administration. The second thing I read is that
> before
> > something can be published about this topic, the government needs to
> > approve this.
>
> > Do you realise what the
right word for this is? censorship.
> > Even if it is only partially.
>
> > Luckily there are many
scientists working on getting all the data
abroad,
> out of the US to ensure the research data is
saved, including on
servers
> in
> > the Netherlands where Trump (hopefully) has no reach.
>
> > In the past week I was
reading about the Internet Archive organisation,
> > who is making a back up in Canada because of the Trump administration.
I
> did not understood this, you may call me
naive, but now I do
understand,
> > apparently they have some visionary people at the Internet Archive.
>
> > I miss a good answer to
this situation from the Wikimedia Foundation.
>
> > Trump is now promoting
harassment and disrespect, already for some
time,
>
> > What signal is given to the
rest of the world if an America based
> > organisation is spreading the thought of a harassment free Wikipedia
and
> > the free word, while the president of the US is promoting harassment,
> > disrespect and censorship on a massive scale.
>
> > This is just the first week
of this president!
>
> > I am 100% sure everyone in
the Wikimedia movement is willing to make
sure
> > Wikimedia faces no damage whatsoever, including in WMF, but to me this
> > still starts to get concerning.
>
> > If we as Wikimedia movement
think that free knowledge, free speech,
> > freedom of information, etc are important, I would think that the
> location
> > where the organisation is based is that country where liberty is the
> > largest, I do not know where this is but it is definitely not the US.
>
> > To my impression WMF is
stuck in the US, so I do not believe they would
> > actually move when the danger grows.
>
> > But I think it is possible
to make sure risks are spread over the
world.
> > Certainly as we are an international movement that intends to cover the
> > knowledge of the whole humanoid civilisation.
>
> > To come to a conclusion, I
think WMF and the Wikimedia movement should
> > think about a back-up plan if it actually goes wrong.
>
>
> > If you do not agree with me: that is perfectly fine,
that's your right
> and
> > should be protected.
>
> > Thank you.
>
> > Romaine
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