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WereSpielChequers

10 Mar 2020 10 Mar '20

2:58 p.m.

At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided to attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even May meetings might need to go virtual. Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a dozen to twenty people? I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade ago, but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly Regards WSC On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, <wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

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Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Dariusz Jemielniak) 2. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Gnangarra) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400 From: Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open Message-ID: < CADeSpGUUq96JZAYLkAjfiPV-isFMQVCUL8nHm+ScBjxagfdCBg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a professional team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5 months in the future. It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer where we stand. For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is not shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing down the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly prioritizes our safety. I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that they are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time. Best, Dj "pundit" On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr <rehman.wikimedia(a)live.com> wrote:

I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks are far too great. A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the potential to cause significant damage to the Movement. I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I strongly hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this year's conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk of spreading it to more parts of the world. Yours truly, Rehman<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman> ________________________________ From: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51 To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans and have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course in healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise. James On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski <toni91ehrlich(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Yaroslav Blanter

10 Mar 10 Mar

3:04 p.m.

For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work fine https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314&creative=359453254254&keyword=%2Bzoom%20… but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants. Best Yaroslav On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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professional

team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5 months

the future. It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer where

stand. For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is not shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing

down

the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly prioritizes our safety. I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that they are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time. Best, Dj "pundit" On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr <rehman.wikimedia(a)live.com> wrote: > I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks are > far too great. > > A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the > potential to cause significant damage to the Movement. > > I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I strongly > hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this year's > conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk of > spreading it to more parts of the world. > > > > Yours truly, > > Rehman<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman> > > ________________________________ > From: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf

> James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> > Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open > > From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel plans

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have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course in healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise. James On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski <toni91ehrlich(a)gmail.com

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Gnangarra

3:19 p.m.

See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_remote_event_participation on possible options and available materials, its not perfect and there are mechanics and costs that individual events need to addressed but hopefully it'll help as a starting point On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 23:05, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided

attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and even May meetings might need to go virtual. Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a dozen to twenty people? I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade

ago,

but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly Regards WSC On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, <wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

professional > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5

months

in > the future. > > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer

where

we > stand. > > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is

not

shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing

down > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly > prioritizes our safety. > > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that

they

> are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time. > > Best, > > Dj "pundit" > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr <rehman.wikimedia(a)live.com> > wrote: > > > I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks

are

> > far too great. > > > > A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the > > potential to cause significant damage to the Movement. > > > > I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I

strongly

> > hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this

year's

> > conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk

> > spreading it to more parts of the world. > > > > > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Rehman<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on

behalf

and > > have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course

> > healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise. > > > > James > > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski <

toni91ehrlich(a)gmail.com

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Fæ

4:21 p.m.

I encourage UK wikimedians to test out group meeting tools, if only to be in a strong position to share experiences and recommendations with other groups as to the practicalities of substituting meet ups with virtual events. This is a subject that gets discussed at *every* Wikimania but there is hardly any progress apart from streaming videos with very limited virtual chat. The WM-LGBT+ community has been using Zoom to coordinate the user group and for the LGBT+ conference with participants using very varied broadband access, hardware kit, and from many countries. Any videoconference tool would struggle on a very old laptop, and my old laptop could not handle it in real time, but modern tablets and mobile phones can run the version of it quite successfully. We have had up to 8 people in a meeting and you share a text channel as well as having options for seeing who is speaking or keeping a gallery view on your screen. Keep in mind that smartphones are specially designed to handle video conferencing, and normally do an excellent job of it. Separately I prefer Google hangouts for a very bad internet connection (under 10 mb/s) which is more forgiving than Zoom or Skype as it seems to be better at brown-out conditions. Google hangouts is probably a bit easier for the average volunteer to log in to or get running on their kit, for example installing Zoom on Ubuntu meant setting things up on the command line for me. Fae On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 15:05, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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professional

team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5 months

the future. It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer where

stand. For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is not shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing

down

of > > James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> > > Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51> _______________________________________________

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Gergő Tisza

6:21 p.m.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:22 AM Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Separately I prefer Google hangouts for a very bad internet connection (under 10 mb/s) which is more forgiving than Zoom or Skype as it seems to be better at brown-out conditions. Google hangouts is probably a bit easier for the average volunteer to log in to or get running on their kit, for example installing Zoom on Ubuntu meant setting things up on the command line for me.

In my experience Hangouts/Meet is superior to Zoom technically in pretty much every aspect (saner UI, better A/V quality, less bugs, better handling of poor connections, also it is just a web page while Zoom's web version is not really usable). OTOH Zoom has more facilitation features (such as splitting into subgroups) which might be useful in certain kinds of meetings.

Dariusz Jemielniak

4:22 p.m.

I am a big fan of open source, and setting up a Jitsi conference is a solution that I often default too (with a bonus of having the possibility to have easy placeholders, e.g. meet.jit.si/WikimediaSummit best, dj On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:05 AM Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided

ago,

professional > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5

months

in > the future. > > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer

where

we > stand. > > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is

not

shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing

down > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly > prioritizes our safety. > > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that

they

are

strongly

> > hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this

year's

> > conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk

behalf

and > > have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course

> > healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise. > > > > James > > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski <

toni91ehrlich(a)gmail.com

wrote:

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Sam Wilson

11 Mar 11 Mar

1:52 a.m.

Jitsi is also integrated into Riot (the Matrix client). I was in a group trying it out a couple of weeks ago, and it worked really well. If there are two people in a room, it uses a direct connection, and if there are three or more it uses Jitsi (both inside the Riot interface, so there's no need to set up separate URLs or anything). On 11/3/20 12:22 am, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote:

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At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd decided

ago,

professional > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5

months

in > the future. > > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer

where

we > stand. > > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is

not

shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing

down > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly > prioritizes our safety. > > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that

they

> are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time. > > Best, > > Dj "pundit" > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr <rehman.wikimedia(a)live.com> > wrote: > >> I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks

are

>> far too great. >> >> A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the >> potential to cause significant damage to the Movement. >> >> I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I

strongly

>> hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this

year's

>> conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk

>> spreading it to more parts of the world. >> >> >> >> Yours truly, >> >> Rehman<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on

behalf

and >> have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course

>> healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise. >> >> James >> >> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski <

toni91ehrlich(a)gmail.com

> wrote: > *********************************

Chico Venancio

3:33 a.m.

My only hangup with jitsi is the design choice (that zoom used to have) to drop new attendees with mic and camera default to open as the default. I know it is now possible to change this on a per meeting level, but the fact that sometimes it isn't me setting up the meeting made me go with Google meet for the time being. This was in the context of the User Group Wiki Movement Brazil (WMB) periodical meetings. Google gave us, WMB, a free non-profit subscription to all of gsuite and it allows us meetings of up to 25 people. Last I checked the free tier without the non-profit program is up to 10 people per meeting. Jitsi is superior to zoom in my view, not only the open source aspect is important but zoom does not have a browser based solution that I'm aware of. And a few months ago there was a serious vulnerability disclosed for the zoom local client that kept its foothold even *after* the user chose to uninstall the zoom client. For now my recommendations are meet, better than jitsi, better than zoom. Best regards, Chico Venancio Em ter, 10 de mar de 2020 22:53, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> escreveu:

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wrote:

> For a setting with a lot of presentations and questions Zoom should work > fine > > >

https://zoom.us/?zcid=2314&creative=359453254254&keyword=%2Bzoom%20…

> > but of course it would not provide any interaction between participants. > > Best > Yaroslav > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:59 PM WereSpielChequers < > werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> At last Sunday's London Meetup we discussed the situation and while not >> wanting to seem over cautious (we were of course the dozen who'd

decided

> to >> attend). We realised that there was a good chance that the April and

even

May meetings might need to go virtual. Is there a recommended software solution for video/audio conferencing a dozen to twenty people? I took part in some not the wikipedia Weekly podcasts almost a decade

ago, > but i'm assuming the technology has progressed since then. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Not_The_Wikipedia_Weekly > > Regards > > WSC > > On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:27, <wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org

wrote: > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to > wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimedia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimedia-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Dariusz Jemielniak) > 2. Re: 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open (Gnangarra) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:48:48 -0400 > From: Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open > Message-ID: > < > CADeSpGUUq96JZAYLkAjfiPV-isFMQVCUL8nHm+ScBjxagfdCBg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi, > > I believe it likely is too early to make a decision. We have a professional > team at the WMF monitoring the situation, but the date is still 5

months

in > the future. > > It is reasonable to expect that we may need to make adjustments to the > situation as it develops and in 2-3 months it will be much clearer

where

we > stand. > > For now, I think it is already fair to say that the WMF leadership is

not

> shying away from difficult decisions (the summit cancellation, closing down > the office, canceling international travel for staff) and clearly > prioritizes our safety. > > I trust the judgment of our staff when they communicate clearly that

they >> are considering all options and will.make a decision in due time. >> >> Best, >> >> Dj "pundit" >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 00:45 Rehman Abubakr <rehman.wikimedia(a)live.com

>>> wrote: >>> >>>> I too have cancelled all personal/work/wiki travel plans. The risks > are >>>> far too great. >>>> >>>> A single infection at the conference, depending on who/where, has the >>>> potential to cause significant damage to the Movement. >>>> >>>> I understand the sheer effort that has already been put, but I > strongly >>>> hope the Foundation will postpone the conference or cancel this > year's >>>> conference for the safety of the volunteers, and to prevent the risk > of >>>> spreading it to more parts of the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yours truly, >>>> >>>> Rehman<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on > behalf >> of >>>> James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> >>>> Sent: 09 March 2020 22:51 >>>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2020 Wikimania Scholarships now open >>>> >>>> From a personal perspective, I have cancelled all future travel

plans

>> and >>>> have requested that everyone I work with do the same. I am of course > in >>>> healthcare. Please note that this is not official advise. >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:48 AM Toni Ristovski < > toni91ehrlich(a)gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> ********************************* >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > -- > _____________________________ > > <https://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl/> > > Dariusz Jemielniak, Ph.D., Full Professor, head of MINDS > <https://nerds.kozminski.edu.pl/> > > (Management in Networked and Digital Societies), Kozminski University > > Polish Academy of Sciences corresponding member > > associate faculty Berkman-Klein Center for Internet and Society > <https://cyber.harvard.edu/>, Harvard University > *Key books*: Collaborative Society > <https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/collaborative-society> (2020, MIT

Press,

> with A. Przegalinska), Thick Big Data > <

https://global.oup.com/academic/product/thick-big-data-9780198839705?cc=gb&…

> (2020, Oxford University Press), Common Knowledge? > <https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=24010> (2014, Stanford University > Press) > *Recent articles:* > > Jemielniak D. (2019) Wikipedia: Why is the common knowledge resource > still neglected by academics? > <https://academic.oup.com/gigascience/article/8/12/giz139/5651107>, > Gigascience 8(12): giz139 > > Hergueux, J. & Jemielniak, D. (2019) Should digital files be considered

> commons? Copyright infringement in the eyes of lawyers > <

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01972243.2019.1616019?fbclid=I…

, > The Information Society, 35(4): 198-215 > > Jemielniak, D.,Masukume, G. & Wilamowski, M. (2019) The Most

Influential

Medical Journals According to Wikipedia: Quantitative Analysis <https://www.jmir.org/2019/1/e11429/pdf>, Journal of Medical Internet Research, 21(1):E11429

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Risker

12 Mar 12 Mar

4:58 a.m.

Regardless of what platforms people might want to use for virtual meetings, it is my personal opinion that all movement organizations, groups (formal and informal) and the WMF itself immediately stop meeting in person. For the movement entities that have offices, work-from-home should be the standard (as it has been for the WMF for almost a week). Edit-a-thons and similar meet-ups should be cancelled for the foreseeable future. The broad movement has spent a lot of time talking about the safety and security of its communities, and this level of social distancing at this time is probably the best way to demonstrate that we really mean what we say. #CancelEverything is not just a cute hashtag - it's really serious, and our movement can be leaders in showing how it is done. I'm speaking from my own experience (having worked in a hospital with SARS patients and having participated in the development of pandemic plans for hospitals), so perhaps my perspective is different from other people's. But given there's very little downside to this proposal, there's no reason not to take these steps, at least for a few months while the world has a better sense of how this will all play out. Risker/Anne

Dariusz Jemielniak

10:54 a.m.

Dear Risker, Many thanks for sharing - I know you're a professional in the field. This is pretty much what we're doing as the WMF, and the affiliates surely can follow suit. All universities I'm currently affiliated with (Harvard, MIT, Kozminski) cancelled all classes and move to virtual meetings only, too. Best, DJ "pundit" On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 00:54 Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Rebecca O'Neill

2:24 p.m.

The Irish government have closed all schools, childcare facilities, colleges, universities and other public institutions until 29 March. The current advice is not to have any gatherings of 100 people, but everyone I had planned events with for the next month has decided to cancel/postpone even at a much smaller scale. On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 10:55, Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl> wrote:

...

Regardless of what platforms people might want to use for virtual

meetings,

it is my personal opinion that all movement organizations, groups (formal and informal) and the WMF itself immediately stop meeting in person. For the movement entities that have offices, work-from-home should be the standard (as it has been for the WMF for almost a week). Edit-a-thons

and

similar meet-ups should be cancelled for the foreseeable future. The

broad

movement has spent a lot of time talking about the safety and security of its communities, and this level of social distancing at this time is probably the best way to demonstrate that we really mean what we say. #CancelEverything is not just a cute hashtag - it's really serious, and

our

movement can be leaders in showing how it is done. I'm speaking from my own experience (having worked in a hospital with

SARS

patients and having participated in the development of pandemic plans for hospitals), so perhaps my perspective is different from other people's.

But

given there's very little downside to this proposal, there's no reason

not

to take these steps, at least for a few months while the world has a

better

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James Heilman

6:33 p.m.

Agree 100% with Risker. Now is not the time to be taking risk. I would be much happier if a year from now we looked back and said we overreacted than if we looked back to realize we did not react enough. James On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:27 AM Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanineil(a)gmail.com> wrote:

...

Regardless of what platforms people might want to use for virtual

meetings, > it is my personal opinion that all movement organizations, groups

(formal

> and informal) and the WMF itself immediately stop meeting in person.

For

the movement entities that have offices, work-from-home should be the standard (as it has been for the WMF for almost a week). Edit-a-thons

and

similar meet-ups should be cancelled for the foreseeable future. The

broad > movement has spent a lot of time talking about the safety and security

its communities, and this level of social distancing at this time is probably the best way to demonstrate that we really mean what we say. #CancelEverything is not just a cute hashtag - it's really serious, and

our

movement can be leaders in showing how it is done. I'm speaking from my own experience (having worked in a hospital with

SARS > patients and having participated in the development of pandemic plans

for

hospitals), so perhaps my perspective is different from other people's.

But

given there's very little downside to this proposal, there's no reason

not

to take these steps, at least for a few months while the world has a

better

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Lucas Werkmeister

11:42 p.m.

For what it’s worth, Wikimedia Germany is in full work-from-home mode starting next Monday, and a lot of many employees have already gradually started working from home over the past days (apart from those who work remotely anyways, of course). Announcement (in German): https://blog.wikimedia.de/2020/03/12/information-anlaesslich-covid-19-gesch… Best wishes, Lucas On 12.03.20 19:33, James Heilman wrote:

...

Regardless of what platforms people might want to use for virtual

meetings, > it is my personal opinion that all movement organizations, groups

(formal

> and informal) and the WMF itself immediately stop meeting in person.

For

the movement entities that have offices, work-from-home should be the standard (as it has been for the WMF for almost a week). Edit-a-thons

and

similar meet-ups should be cancelled for the foreseeable future. The

broad > movement has spent a lot of time talking about the safety and security

our

movement can be leaders in showing how it is done. I'm speaking from my own experience (having worked in a hospital with

SARS > patients and having participated in the development of pandemic plans

for

hospitals), so perhaps my perspective is different from other people's.

But

given there's very little downside to this proposal, there's no reason

not

to take these steps, at least for a few months while the world has a

better

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Chico Venancio
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Rebecca O'Neill
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Sam Wilson
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