On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:52 PM, F.-F. Duron <ff.duron(a)gmail.com> wrote: I performed the search you suggested (here is the link: http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial%3ARecherche&redi…) and did not find any advertisements. Perhaps you are mistaken?

I did what he ask: http://fr.wikiwix.com/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial%3ARecherche&redirs=1… But note that now you are not anymore in french wikipedia, but in Wikiwix. And we can't control what they put on their site. _____ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.* 2011/1/21 Nathan &lt;nawrich(a)gmail.com&gt;

On 21 January 2011 20:07, F.-F. Duron &lt;ff.duron(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Do we have a partnership with them? The French Wikipedia apparently links to their search results, but that doesn't constitute a partnership.

There are no such thing as a "partnership" whit Wikiwix (or Google, Exalead, Bing and Yahoo). They are there only to improve the results of a search in case you don't find anything in Wikipedia. _____ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.* 2011/1/21 F.-F. Duron &lt;ff.duron(a)gmail.com&gt;

Hello, First, let me say that we have taken down the offending link. But let me now correct some of your assertions. You say: "this company is making money off display ads and it is through one of these links that your niece came across an adult site". These are not advertising links. Click-throughs do not generate revenues for Linterweb. The links are generated by our twitter-search algorithm which we are putting in place in order to return interesting up-to-the-minute results around search terms. You can an example of this twitter search service here: http://wikiwix.com/index.php?lang=fr&disp=!twitter%2Ffr%2F&action=s… The basic idea is that we want to show users material that is recent and fresh around their search term of interest. We're working on the algorithm still, and the fact that it sometimes produces results like this one demonstrates that we need to do more work on it. In the meantime, we have disabled the feature. Yours, Pascal Martin Bonjour, Avant de commencer ma réponse j'ai retiré ces liens. Je rectifie : "Cette société d'archivage se rémunère par le biais de publicité. Et c'est depuis le site de cette société que votre nièce est tombée sur de la publicité pour un site pour adulte." Ce ne sont pas des liens publicitaires, c'est à dire que lorsqu'un internaute clique sur ces liens, Linterweb ne gagne pas d'argent. Ces liens sont issus de notre moteur de recherche twitter afin de données l'activité récente sur le titre de l'article http://wikiwix.com/index.php?lang=fr&disp=!twitter%2Ffr%2F&action=s… En effet l'idée derrière est de proposer une alternative sur les liens qui sont mis en source, en essayant de proposer à l'internaute l'activité récente sur le titre de l'article. Nos algorithmes étant encore trop perfectible et à améliorer nous avons pris la décision de suspendre cette affichage. Cordialement Cordialement Pascal Martin 06 13 89 77 32 02 32 40 23 69 ----- Original Message ----- From: "F.-F. Duron" &lt;ff.duron(a)gmail.com&gt; To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Advertising on Wikipedia The integration of this search engine into wikipedia (which seems to be a very lucrative deal for this company) is just one of the problems. The ads that I've mentioned are unacceptable (escort girl = prostitution). I will never see such kind of ads on Google. And there is a big difference between Google, Bing and this company. The two first major companies are sending you the majority of your trafic. This little company is only making business by monetizing the trafic that Wikipedia send to them. The second problem is the cache system. I don't understand why the French Wikipedia is using their commercial cache system instead of the Internet Archive which 1) is a well known non profit organization and 2) has been advocating for free content for a long time and 3) doesn't show ads at all. 2011/1/21 Béria Lima &lt;berialima(a)gmail.com&gt; _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Bonjour Je vous réponderai dans la fin de matinée. Cordialement Pascal Martin 06 13 89 77 32 02 32 40 23 69 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Platonides" &lt;platonides(a)gmail.com&gt; To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" &lt;public-foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r(a)plane.gmane.org&gt; Cc: "F.-F. Duron" &lt;public-ff.duron-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w(a)plane.gmane.org&gt;rg>; &lt;smartin(a)linterweb.com&gt; Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:30 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] Wikiwix porn ads (was: Advertising on Wikipedia) F.-F. Duron a écrit: Ça me semble malhereuse. Je ne croix pas que wikiwix a directement placé ces pubs mais quelque annonce programme ils ont activé. J'envoye copie au Martin from wikiwix. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Teofilo, this is not something you can decide on your own. The french community formally decided to have this archive system in november 2008. See Wikipédia:Prise_de_décision/Système_de_cache<http://fr.wikipedia.org/wik…he>. Any change regarding this decision has to be made by the community. This issue was raised only a few days ago, and the discussion with Linterweb has not begun yet. There is no need to rush things. Teofilo, ce n'est pas quelque chose que vous pouvez décider de votre propre chef. La Communauté française a officiellement décidé d'avoir ce système d'archivage en novembre 2008. Voir Wikipédia:Prise_de_décision/Système_de_cache<http://fr.wikipedia.org/wik…he>. Toute modification portant sur cette décision doit être prise par la communauté. Cette question a été soulevée seulement il ya quelques jours, et la discussion avec Linterweb n'a pas encore commencé. Il n'est pas nécessaire de précipiter les choses. Dodoïste / Rodan Bury 2011/1/25 Teofilo &lt;teofilowiki(a)gmail.com&gt;

But why are you working with this small start-up that 1) is 100% commercial and 2) shows ads that are inapropriate for Wikipedia? Is that the philosophy of the "free" and "neutral" encyclopedia? Why don't you replace this with the Internet Archive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive) which is a well known non profit organization? Le 21 janvier 2011 18:43, Florence Devouard &lt;Anthere9(a)yahoo.com&gt; a écrit :

Bonjour, Le contenu des liens en source sont stocké depuis 2009, nous avons tenté de récupérer les liens qui étaient en 404 par le biais d'internet archive et autre système de stockage. Depuis que nous stockons le contenu des liens en temps réel , il n'y a plus de cas comme tu le décris. Et quand ca marche : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Jean-Paul_Ney#Mauvaise_information_… Cordialement Pascal Martin 06 13 89 77 32 02 32 40 23 69 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teofilo" &lt;teofilowiki(a)gmail.com&gt; To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" &lt;foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Advertising on Wikipedia Le 21 janvier 2011 18:43, Florence Devouard &lt;Anthere9(a)yahoo.com&gt; a écrit : Si ça marche. Mais si ça ne marche pas... http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro/29_octobre_2010#A_quo… _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Le 21 janvier 2011 23:06, Ashar Voultoiz <hashar+wmf@free.fr<hashar%2Bwmf@free.fr> popularity of the website. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wikiwix.com 2. Wikiwix uses normal google ads, which can be filtered on your computer. Wikiwix ads surely needs to be improved, given the problem you raised about explicit ads. Florence Devouard has forwarded these mails to Wikiwix's author. 3. At the french Wikipedia, we are also using Internet Archive, when possible. But its use is very impractical. Internet Archive makes backups of the Internet irregularely and very rarely (every 6 months, or sometimes once a year...). An incredible amount of websites are missing in Internet Archive. Most of the archived websites have missing content, broken layout, etc. Wikiwix archive on the contrary is dedicated to Wikipedia, and fits our needs as a web archive. Yours, Rodan