As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be published. Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a journey of nearly 24 hours. On 08/08/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote: her just sent -- schiste _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

She, not he, please. I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally. I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site. ant Casey Brown wrote: so, I e-mail might _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Once Anthere uploaded the slides, I believe there will be someone helped to convert the slides to .odt/.pdf or whatever. :) The organization team is still working on the recording videos from DV tapes. You could see http://wikimania.tw/streaming/ for some rough taste (they are videos from day 2 to day 3 and might have some dropped frames or other issues for it's been ripped directly from the live streaming). Day 1 videos are on DV tapes and not uploaded yet. Thanks for Academia Sinica, Taiwan for the support on server. -- H.T. (Ted) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Htchien Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!! have journey >>>> of nearly 24 hours. >>>> >>>> On 08/08/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to >> e-mail >>>> her >>>>> for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or >> might >>>> just >>>>> not share! :-P >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa <shfukuzawa(a)jcom.home.ne.jp> wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian. >>>>>> >>>>>> I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a >>>>>> great pretentation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the >>>>>> Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks.

Florence Devouard wrote: Have you tried adding it to a zip file then send it? > Ant > >

Don't you have some webspace somewhere? I can temporarily give you space on http://www.wikinewsie.org to share the file. Brianmc _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Hi, Sorry, I use a cheap prover :/

If you can, please send it to mailto:yukichi@gmail.com . But Gmail can accept 10Mb file attachment. Or upload to proper site. Florence Devouard wrote: > Hmmmm > > I sent the slides yesterday to Shun, but his mail box rejected the > document as being too big. > > I tried to open it in OpenOffice, and it messed. Text colors being wrong > mostly. Then, I thought I could open it as ppt and save it as pdf, but > ... powerpoint does not save stuff in pdf... > > So... HELP ! :-) > Does someone have a mailbox accepting a powerpoint, to save it as odt or > as pdf or anything suitable ? Kat, can you help on this ? > > Ant > > Hsiang-Tai (Ted) Chien wrote: >> Once Anthere uploaded the slides, I believe there will be someone helped to >> convert the slides to .odt/.pdf or whatever. :) >> >> The organization team is still working on the recording videos from DV >> tapes. You could see http://wikimania.tw/streaming/ for some rough taste >> (they are videos from day 2 to day 3 and might have some dropped frames or >> other issues for it's been ripped directly from the live streaming). Day 1 >> videos are on DV tapes and not uploaded yet. >> >> Thanks for Academia Sinica, Taiwan for the support on server. >> >> -- >> H.T. (Ted) >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Htchien >> >> Think Different, Do Smarter, Work for Joy!! >> >> >>> From: Casey Brown >>> >>> Can you send us a link when you upload it? :) I would like to see it as >>> well! :-P >>> >>> On 8/8/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> She, not he, please. >>>> >>>> I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa >>>> generally. >>>> >>>> I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as >>>> Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but >>>> it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change >>>> the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained >>>> a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of >>>> "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send >>>> you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I >>>> have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it >>>> will be stored on our site. >>>> >>>> ant >>>> >>>> Casey Brown wrote: >>>>> They should be, but isn't (s)he talking about the opening speech? If >>>> so, I >>>>> don't think *that* will be published, but of course, I could be and >> have >>>>> been wrong. >>>>> >>>>> On 8/8/07, Christophe Henner <christophe.henner(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> As far as I know, all the slides of all the presentations will be >>>>>> published. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please easy guys, we are just coming back from Taipei, after a >> journey >>>>>> of nearly 24 hours. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/08/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I do not think it is published anywhere, you are going to have to >>>> e-mail >>>>>> her >>>>>>> for a copy, but keep in mind that she may not have it typed up or >>>> might >>>>>> just >>>>>>> not share! :-P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/8/07, Shun Fukuzawa <shfukuzawa(a)jcom.home.ne.jp> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm Shun, Japanese wikipedian. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I attended Wikimania and saw Florence's session. I think that was a >>>>>>>> great pretentation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please give me the presentation file. I intend to show it to the >>>>>>>> Japanese people that didn't come to wikimania with my impression. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >

if i'm correct, odt wont work either to be uploaded. You can try to convert to pdf though. That generally works fine for presentations. BR, Lodewijk

lol, I feel bad for you man! All of the Wikimania copies are in PDF (well almost all).

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I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool".

On 8/9/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: One comment on this: though I think the rest of it went well, I was disappointed that your answer on the Wikimania panel spoke more about the detail of the difficulties of using OpenOffice for presentations than the importance of supporting free tools.

My presentation was done in OpenOffice; I saved in it .ppt format to run on the Windows machine doing presentations and it worked perfectly there, not because I'm good at using it or because I did anything special, but because it just worked without me having to think about it.

Importing and exporting from each other, especially from older versions, are a sticky point in both pieces of software (though most of the time it works fine), but that's not much of a failure of the free tool on its own.

I'm not going to argue that all free tools are as good as their proprietary counterparts (some are worse, some are better), but I think Impress and PowerPoint are equally as bad, and in the same ways. :-) -Kat

On 8/9/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: When people can no longer participate in something we do, or when they can no longer access information we provide, because they are running free software, we have failed in our mission. Our mission is not about software, that's true, but it is about spreading knowledge without boundaries, and proprietary tools & formats can and do represent such boundaries.

People running free software can usually import XLS, DOC & PPT files, but it's clear that open document standards are critical for the long term preservation of & access to knowledge, which includes information we carry to the outside. Whether you end up running any specific open source solution or not, let's try to at least archive all presentations in an open format.

It was a very nice presentation, BTW. :-)

She, not he, please. I see NO reason why it should not be published. Consider it a ccbysa generally. I thought I could upload it this evening, but... the slides are ppt (as Wikimania participants know...); I just tried to save them in odt, but it changes the color of the text in various places. I tried to change the colors to black again and Open Office froze. So just as I explained a few days ago, I'll use ooo when and only when it deserve the title of "helpful tool". Meanwhile, Shun, I appreciate your support and will send you the ppt slides. More interesting perhaps will be the record. But I have no idea if recording really worked at Wikimania and if or when it will be stored on our site.

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