I think you raise a very good point, Jonathan. Anne Frank's diary is not just any book. Paradoxically, the very fact that this is a special book by a special author is also the reason why many people - especially in the Netherlands - are uncomfortable about the recent and unexpected introduction of the possibility that there is a co-author. Definitely, this is a very sensitive issue and Wikimedia Nederland is proceeding very, very cautiously. No-one should play copyright games with Anne Frank's diary. (For those interested, ENWP has good information on the copyright issues: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diary_of_a_Young_Girl#Copyright_and_owner… ) Sandra Rientjes Directeur Wikimedia Nederland 06 31786379 verzonden vanaf mobiel I may have an unpopular view here, but when an author has been murdered, especially one so young, I find it distasteful to try to make that a test case re copyright. If Anne Frank hadn't been murdered she might well still be alive today, and presumably her work would still be in copyright. By all means we should be encouraging people to freely license things openly, and arguing for open licensing against those who claim copyright on faithful copies of out of copyright work, and for freedom of panorama in countries less open about such things than Armenia or the UK. I'm sort of OK about as Michael Maggs put it using it to "increase awareness of the excessive length (95 years) of some US copyright terms." Though I'd hope there are other examples where we don't look like taking advantage of the murder of a child. I'm also OK with using this as an example of us taking copyright seriously. But though it is an important work, is it really one we should be trying to force into the open against the wishes of a charity set up by her relatives? Regards Jonathan/WereSpielChequers _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

If we were publishers trying to make a buck out of selling the work, I would agree with you, and move on. However, that is not what we want to do as a movement. We don't try to take advantage, but we want to build upon works. We want to collaborate and stand on the shoulders of giants. Giants like this little girl.