Dan Grey wrote: I think the template for navigation is not really the problem. The problem is that the content of the pages is either non complete, or outdated, or just plain missing. I suggest we improve the content before any big modification of the template itself. Ant

Dan Grey wrote: As a journalist, you shouldn't be on Meta. Meta is the place for the community, to work at wikimedia level. Not for public representation. That's what http://wikimediafoundation.org is for. greetings, elian

Dan Grey wrote: Not convinced, but if we must really shorten the list, I think a few ones should absolutely be kept. Amongst those, I think that * the meetings * and the agenda are two importants starts to know what is going on, and how editors can interact with them. In your shorten list, there is no hint of how people can talk with us. Secondly, it is a bit bothering there is no more link to pages such as * trademarks * domain names * logos These are issues where people keep asking information. I see not from which pages we could list them so that readers could all by themselves find the information. If I need information on trademarks... should I go to "the servers", or to "the board" ? Since the "budget" is now linking to foundation, we can not put links there. I think your shortened list may be interesting... but is a bit reducing. By reading it, I feel like the ONLY things we are doing are * gathering money (the budget) * spending it on servers * answering to the press Errr, I think it goes a little bit further. However, I agree some other links could be removed. Elections can be put in board. Chapters could be limited to one general link to all chapters, where we can also generally explain relationship, mailing list etc...

Dan Grey wrote: I guess Datrio locked it when you started an edit war with Aphaia. Well, most of us have pretty strong opinions generally :-) Best to discuss this in talk page first. I'll unlock it soon if no one does it.