On Jul 6, 2012 2:48 AM, "Deryck Chan" <deryckchan(a)wikimedia.hk> wrote:
Short answer as I understand it:
Global blocks are the technical feature and refer to the accounts, the IPs
and the software capability; global bans are the policy and refer to the
people who are unwelcome.
Deryck has got it right here. The situation is made more complex by the
fact there currently is no technical mechanism for a global block. In lieu
of that, Stewards etc. have been resorting to locking people out of their
accounts using SUL, which is known as a global lock. A global lock is the
usual way of enforcing a ban, according to the current state of the policy.
Steven
On 6 July 2012 10:44, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steven,
>
> Could you explain the distinctions between
https://meta.wikimedia.org/**
> wiki/Global_locks <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_locks>,
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Global_blocks<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_blocks>gt;,
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_bans>?
> These look to me like they have some redundancy
and some areas where
they
> diverge. A chart which compares these three
side-by-side would be
helpful.
>
> Also, if Global Bans are decided by an RFC on Meta, that gives me
pause. I
> can envision sockpuppets and meatpuppets
attempting to sabotage the
process
> and giving Meta checkusers more work to do,
potentially much more work,
> especially if WP:DUCK behaviors need to be evaluated on multiple
projects
> in multiple languages and/or coordination is
needed with checkusers from
> projects in other languages. I'm a bit more supportive of the process at
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Global_locks<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_locks>which seems to involve
Stewards making the decision to take a global action
> based on multiple local projects taking local
actions, rather than
because
> there was a global community RFC at Meta. I agree
with AFBorchert's
comment
> at the RFC, "Meta is working great for
non-controversial project
> coordination, requests to stewards etc. But Meta is in no way prepared
to
> serve as a battleground for a large-scale global
ban discussion which
would
> tend to revive previous debates at other
projects."
>
> Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'm thinking that global locks and
> global blocks would be the best two of the three options to deal with a
> user who is problematic enough to be unwelcome on all wikis.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine
>
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