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Andy Mabbett

4 Aug 2014 4 Aug '14

2:11 p.m.

This is a good read in its own right: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_… but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills up my spine. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Magnus Manske

4 Aug 4 Aug

2:18 p.m.

You're familiar with this, I take it: http://radio.publicdomainproject.org/ On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

This is a good read in its own right: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_… but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills up my spine. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Jesse de Vos

2:31 p.m.

Thanks, great article. At Sound and Vision in the Netherlands we recently digitized nearly 10.000 (mainly Dutch) 78 rpm records. Unfortunately researching whether this material is PD or not is an enormous effort. By the looks of it only a very small part of it will be PD in the US. Once the research is finished we will upload these to commons. 2014-08-04 16:18 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>om>:

You're familiar with this, I take it: http://radio.publicdomainproject.org/ On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

This is a good read in its own right:

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_…

but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills up my spine. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Andy Mabbett

2:44 p.m.

I wasn't. That's going to kill my productivity for the rest of the day ;-) Thank you. On 4 August 2014 15:18, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

You're familiar with this, I take it: http://radio.publicdomainproject.org/ On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

This is a good read in its own right: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_… but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills up my spine. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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David Gerard

2:53 p.m.

On 4 August 2014 15:11, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills up my spine.

This is surprisingly common with indie records. Frequently, a few hundred pieces of vinyl are the *only* copies of the music in question. - d.

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geni

6:07 p.m.

On 4 August 2014 15:53, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 4 August 2014 15:11, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills up my spine.

This is surprisingly common with indie records. Frequently, a few hundred pieces of vinyl are the *only* copies of the music in question.

Eh there used to be fairground/seaside booths where you could cut your own record. One the plus side this stuff should last longer than say floppy discs. -- geni

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David Gerard

6:24 p.m.

On 4 August 2014 19:07, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Eh there used to be fairground/seaside booths where you could cut your own record. One the plus side this stuff should last longer than say floppy discs.

I've wanted one of these for years: http://www.elpj.com/ OTOH, even the Internet Archive doesn't bother with those, they just use ordinary Technics turntables. - d.

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Andy Mabbett

5 Aug 5 Aug

9:55 a.m.

On 4 August 2014 19:24, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I've wanted one of these for years: http://www.elpj.com/

How much? Maybe we should put in a grant application. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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David Gerard

10:51 a.m.

On 5 August 2014 10:55, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

On 4 August 2014 19:24, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> I've wanted one of these for years: http://www.elpj.com/

How much? Maybe we should put in a grant application.

Tens of thousands of dollars and a waiting list ... and I don't know anyone who actually has one and uses it for preservation. Though apparently they are *damn fine*. - d.

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Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada

4 Aug 4 Aug

3:37 p.m.

Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwXayHbUQ2o https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record-Rama 2014-08-04 16:11 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

This is a good read in its own right: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2014/07/amanda_petrusich_s_do_not_… but the thesis that some 78rpm records constitute the only surviving example of a particular recording, with no master in an archive somewhere, sent chills up my spine. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Andy Mabbett
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