Changing subject, this is no joke.
Pe marți, 26 octombrie 2021, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder158(a)hotmail.com> a scris:
> "Don't assume that just because you can't do something it's impossible or
even particularly hard. "
> I don't assume it, just we can't do it:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169027 or
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238259
As a matter of fact, these 2 tickets say it's totally possible to have
dynamic content on Wikipedia, just not by an average user. They even have
examples of dynamic content.
What I don't see there (I just skimmed the content though) is a list of
requirements for what we want to achieve. Are there big classes of similar
visualizations that could be done with simple customizations that a
semi-technical person (think:excel user) could do?
You could start from there and have someone write a project grant proposal
for such a project.
Strainu
>
>
> If you know a way to do this kind of interactive content in any given
wiki, we could go forward fast.
> ________________________________
> From: Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:45 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia
Enterprise
>
>
> Pe marți, 26 octombrie 2021, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
galder158(a)hotmail.com> a scris:
>> Anders: we can't add a physics simulator.
>
> We totally can. It takes programming knowledge and a technical
administrator, but it's possible.
>
> Don't assume that just because you can't do something it's impossible or
even particularly hard. What's nearly impossible is to scale such
initiatives in a meaningful manner (I.e. over 250+ languages).
>
> Strainu
>
> (https://www.physicsclassroom.com/Physics-Interactives/Newtons-Laws).
This is not "info wars", this is being useful. And we can't do it
because... well, because we are... obsolete.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Anders Wennersten <mail(a)anderswennersten.se>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 6:02 PM
>> To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia
Enterprise
>>
>>
>> We have an army of volunteers to guarantee correctness and that issues
of controversies are dealt with in a way that hopefully all parties can
accept
>>
>> we have no cookies or technical things that make us follow up on our
editors, truly believing in the full integrity of our users
>>
>> our financial and governing set up is fully independent of an third party
>>
>> Our reading interface works well for our users and on most platforms
(which is made easier with no technical smarties)
>>
>> Our interface can be made better for editors, but this does not make it
as a phenomenon obsolete
>>
>> In the info war we are in, it is beer to be on the "boring" side with
few or none smart gadgets then being too smart and open for foul play by
parties that want to undermine our system by clever hackers
>>
>> Anders
>>
>> Den 2021-10-26 kl. 17:37, skrev Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga:
>>
>> Thanks Anders,
>> "We are the opposite to obsolete" is a good sentence, because this would
imply that our platform is the bow of an icebreaker. But we still, in 2021,
can't do this things (you can help by expanding this list):
>>
>> Simultaneous edition
>> Auto-save in sandbox
>> Publishing from sandbox
>> Upload MP4 files
>> Render correctly vectorial files
>> Embed our own Wikidata query results in our own projects
>> Have a modern look
>> Have cross-project templates and modules
>> Visual edit from mobile
>> Create visually interesting cartography
>> Hear the articles
>> Export multiple articles as a pdf/doc (whatever)
>> ...
>> ........
>>
>> Someone will answer to this message talking about the "Wishlist survey"
every year we have. This scarcity generating system also gives funny
outcomes. Let's take the 2019 survey. 10 projects were voted. Only 4 done:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Results. Or
the 2017 one:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2017/Results.
Some projects where done, some not and there are some that are external
tools that you have to use as a gadget.
>>
>> Students are relying on YouTube to learn things. We are obsolete. Very
obsolete.
>> Galder
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Anders Wennersten <mail(a)anderswennersten.se>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 5:23 PM
>> To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: An Uzbek praktical joke and Wikimedia
Enterprise
>>
>> "We will have more and more and more millions, but we will still...
>> yes... obsolete." Galder
>>
>>
>> What phenomenon do you see challenge Wikipedias role as a source for
>> common knowledge, an encyklopedia for everyone?
>>
>> I see that for the last 20 years no successful commercial encyclopedia
>> has been launched.
>>
>> I see how the social media have a hard time to be a platform for common
>> knowledge and hard pressed to employ armies of moderators. And Google
>> very happy to lean and steal from Wikipedia rather the do something
>> similar themself (which would go down badly in the public)
>>
>> But the war of information is a reality and heating up. We can be very
>> glad that so far we have not been a target of all angriness of what is
>> to be seen as the "correct" information. But that could change, what if
>> a new administration in US want to control what is written in Wikipedia.
>> Or China want to set up a parallel in English as the have now in
>> Chinese. If these thing happen we need to have resources to fight off
>> these type a of challenges, not only for our own sake but for he people
>> in the world who is used to turn to Wikipedia for basic facts.
>>
>> We are the opposite to obsolete, we are in the front seat and driving
>> for correct facts in the emerging information war we now see
>>
>> Anders
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Hi wikimedians, especially functionaries of affiliations!
If nothing substantial will change, in about 2 weeks I am going to start a
formal investigation of possible AffCom's violations of Wikimedia
Foundation Guiding Principles [1].
During last months and especially weeks I have noticed several issues about
AffCom which showed up to hinder work and development of Wikimedia
affiliations. While I have originally considered them to be exceptions,
they have shown a consistent pattern through time indicating possible
structural weakness. I have already asked AffCom non-publicly about some
elements of them and AffCom's answers (respectively lack of them) for now
show it to be higher probable that the issues are real and structural.
In order to make the investigation more efficient and productive I need
your help! If you during last year experienced non-trivial issues with
AffCom, especially if they hindered your affiliation (holding up your
recognition with lack of reasonable communication, non-action to prevent
violations of agreements, very slow work, communication of
false information etc etc etc), please let me know personally
(non-publicly, outside of the list) by email (possibly by sending email
using Meta [2]). I much prefer if you are willing to accept that in case of
investigation I could identify you and your affiliation. But as I
understand that such identification could possibly make AffCom more prone
to target its issues towards you and your affiliation, I accept to receive
your evidence and make a reasonable effort to anonymize it (paraphrasing
your words, getting the essence of the experience without specifics - or to
not use it if it would be unreasonable to anonymize it). Please, write "*AffCom
investigation*" (without parenthesis) in the title, so I can find it more
easily! Many thanks!
Last, but urgent related affair:
As *AffCom's Staff Liaison Manavpreet Kaur* is currently a candidate for
the very responsible role of Movement Charter Drafting Committee member, I
have asked her about her involvement in AffCom's issues and the possibility
for her to "import" the AffCom-like issues to the Movement Charter Drafting
Committee [3] [4]. I am sorry for not starting this conversation publicly
sooner! (I have checked the candidates too lately and also needed some time
to prepare the message, as it must be very precise) I know that such
information would be very interesting for many of you and would help you in
your voting decision. (In a similar way I wanted to challenge Rosie
Stephenson-Goodknight during her candidacy for community elected Board of
Trustees seat several months ago, as she in that time was the AffCom's
Chair. Unfortunately, I have too lately considered her possible role in
AffCom's issues to be potentially significant. Sorry again!)
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_Gui…
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/KuboF_Hromoslav
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Manavpreet_Kaur#Your_role_in_AffC…'s_issues_in_relation_to_your_Movement_Charter_Drafting_Committee_member_candidacy
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/22235789
Best regards!
KuboF Hromoslav (Michal Matúšov)
Hello everyone,
Voting for the election for the members for the Movement Charter drafting
committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians from around the world are
running for seven seats in these elections.
As recommended by the Movement Strategy recommendations, the goal is to
assemble a Drafting Committee that will draft a Movement Charter to ensure
a common framework for decision making in the Wikimedia movement
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recomme…>.
The committee will consist of 15 members in total: The online communities
vote for 7 members, 6 members will be selected by the Wikimedia affiliates
through a parallel process, and 2 members will be appointed by the
Wikimedia Foundation. The plan is to assemble the committee by November 1,
2021.
Voting is open from October 12 10:00 UTC to October 24, 2021 23:59 (Anywhere
on Earth <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth>).
Learn more about the candidates
Candidates from across the movement have submitted their candidatures. Learn
about each candidate to inform your vote
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candida…>.
The statements are translated to a number of languages, so you can have
access to the information in many of your preferred languages.
Additionally, we are piloting a so-called “Election Compass
<https://mcdc-election-compass.toolforge.org/>” for this election. Click
yourself through the tool and respond to the 19 statements, and you will
see which candidate is closest to you! The tool is available in ~9
languages (English, German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Arabic,
Indonesian, Hausa).
Voting
Similar to the previous Board elections, we have chosen Single Transferable
Vote
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_ele…>
for the voting system. The benefit of this is voters can rank their choices
in order of preference. Learn more about voting requirements
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_ele…>,
how to vote
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_ele…>,
and frequently asked questions about voting
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_ele…>
.
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.
We also offer two question and answer times, if you have any questions
regarding the Movement Charter and the voting process:w
-
Wednesday, 19:00 UTC, on Google Meet
-
Thursday, 13:00 UTC, on Zoom (that’s the Conversation Time with Maggie
Dennis)
Please write a short message to answers(a)wikimedia.org if you want to
participate in one of these.
Please help select people who best fit the needs of the movement at this
time. Vote and spread the word so more people can vote for candidates. Our
aim is to have a committee with Wikimedians that combine the diversity of
the Wikimedia Movement as well as a great mix of competencies.
Best,
Kaarel Vaidla, on behalf of the Movement Strategy & Governance team,
Wikimedia Foundation
--
Kaarel Vaidla (he/him)
Movement Strategy <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/2030>
Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
Hi everyone!
Just a reminder that there is one week left to submit your Coolest Tool
Award nominations. It only takes a few minutes to fill the form in!
Please recommend your favorite tools by October 27nd:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Coolest_Tool_Award
Thanks!
andre, for the Coolest Tool Academy 2021
--
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Hello all,
We are writing to invite you to take part in a new project that the
Wikimedia Foundation Trust & Safety Team is creating. This project aims to
maintain and expand peer-support networks within the Wikimedia communities,
improve the working atmosphere on our projects, and aid in the fight
against harassment.
In the Foundation, we believe that your participation and opinion is
important as it will enable us to gain diverse perspectives and new
information.This Peer Support Project endeavors to connect volunteers in a
way where they can support each other, and your knowledge, skills and
experience would be highly appreciated. For more information on the
project, please visit our Meta page
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Peer_Support_Networks_within_the_Wikimedia_…>
.
If you'd like to lend your expertise here, we are organizing Focus group
meetings as a next step. In those meetings, we hope to learn about already
existing networks, ideas on how volunteers could connect more and better,
and what support they would need to do so. These meetings will cover three
different time zones, and each meeting will last two hours. Feel free to
sign up for the meeting that is most comfortable for you!
Focus group meetings will be held on Google Meet on the days and times
listed below:
1 October 2021, 7:30 - 9:30 UTC
15 October 2021, 15:00 - 17:00 UTC
22 October 2021, 19:00 - 21:00 UTC
Please feel free to encourage more members of your community or other
wikifriends to reach out to us if you believe that this project will be of
interest to them.
Do let us know if you are available to participate in one of those meetings
listed above and we will send out calendar invites to you. If you are
interested, but are unavailable in the time slots listed above, let us
know and we will look for ways to connect.
Please be aware that Trust & Safety will also reach out soon with a similar
offer to talk about training around the UCoC. Feel free to concentrate on
the issue that is most important to you, but of course you are also very
welcome to take part in both discussions. We are aware that capacity is
limited and will highly value any kind of participation!
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Christel Steigenberger (she/her)
Senior Trust and Safety Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
Hello,
Excited to announce the reopening of the Movement Strategy Grants!
Movement Strategy Implementation Grants fund projects that advance a specific Movement Strategy Initiative.
The projects supported by these grants can be big or small, but they must all make a case for advancing one initiative.
Read all about Movement Strategy Grants, what to apply for and how to apply.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:MSIG/About
If you have ideas about how you could push an initiative a few steps forward, then start your proposal today!
Support will be provided if you need help turning your idea into a grant request.
Do encourage others to apply as well.
Thank you!
Yop Rwang Pam
Movement Strategy Implementation Specialist
Wikimedia Foundation
User:YPam (WMF) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:YPam_(WMF)
Hello, everyone.
TLDR:
Join the Conversation with the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
on October
20, 2021 at 11:00 UTC (check for your local time
<https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1634724017>).
During the meeting, you will:
* Meet the incoming CEO, Maryana Iskander.
* Meet the candidates nominated through the latest Community-Selection
process to the Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees
* Learn about Board Committees’ work
* Engage through a Question & Answers session (partly pre-sent, and partly
live).
Now in more details:
What are we announcing?
The Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees’ Community Affairs Committee
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Comm…>
(CAC) is hosting its second Conversation with the Wikimedia Foundation
Board of Trustees (formerly called an Office Hour), which is an open forum
for the community to directly engage with Trustees.
Come and meet the Board of Trustees, including the candidates nominated for
the Board through the latest Community-Selection process, and the incoming
CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation; learn about what the Board of Trustees has
been up to lately; and engage through the Question & Answers section!
When & Where?
The meeting will be held on October 20, 2021 at 11:00 UTC (check for your
local time <https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1634724017>)!
We promised at the last meeting to alternate the timings for these in order
to accommodate a wider range of time zones to be able to join in.
At least 3 Trustees and relevant Wikimedia Foundation staff will be in
attendance.
The session will be streamed live and recorded, so those who cannot
participate live will be able to watch later.
Those who cannot attend are welcome to send questions in advance to the
session (details below).
How will it work?
The meeting will last for 90 minutes.
The first 40 minutes will include a short introduction to the session, and an
update on what the Board has been working on lately.
It will be followed by 50 minutes of Questions & Answers: around 20-30
minutes of answering questions sent in advance, and an additional 20-30
minutes of live questions.
We will be monitoring YouTube, the Wikimedia General Chat Telegram group
<https://t.me/WikimediaGeneral> and the Meta talk page for live questions.
We would like to encourage everyone, especially those who cannot
participate at the designated time, to send questions for the Board in
advance of the meeting. The structure is meant to enable the CAC to not
only update the community on current matters the Board is working on, but
also hear directly from the community. This will both increase the
transparency around the Board’s work and will help inform the CAC’s future
work.
Setting the agenda with your Questions
In order to be as efficient as possible, and since we anticipate that some
questions will require answers from Wikimedia Foundation Staff, we are
encouraging
community members to send questions in advance. Please send all questions
to askcac(a)wikimedia.org, by Wednesday, October 13 (midnight, whatever time
zone you may be in).
The Q & A section in the meeting agenda will be based on the main topics
related to the questions received. We will share more exact topics on Meta
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Comm…>
3 days before the meeting, including final names of Trustees in attendance.
Please note --
* Participants will still be able to ask questions live if that is
preferred.
* If you miss the deadline for sending questions (October 13th), you can
still send questions, if they are not addressed during the meeting, we will
follow up in writing after the meeting.
Registering to attend the meeting
For security reasons and specifically to avoid Zoombombing
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoombombing>, we will be sending the Zoom
link only to people who have registered in advance close to the meeting. In
order to register, please send an email to askcac(a)wikimedia.org. The title
should be: “Registration for the October 20 Conversation with Trustees”,
and it should indicate your name, username, affiliation if you have any,
and whether you will require live translation.
Requests for live translation must be sent at least a week before the
session, October 13th. As live translation is costly, there is a minimum of
5 people registering and requesting translation to a specific language that
is required to request for a live translation. If you miss the deadline of
requesting translation, or if there is no minimum of 5 people requesting
translation, you will still be able to see the main points after the
meeting, which will be translated to Arabic, Spanish, French, Russian,
Chinese, German and English.
Please note --
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The session will be moderated based on the Universal Code of Conduct
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Globally banned users will not be allowed in the zoom room, but can
still participate by watching live and sending questions in real-time.
Please help us spread the word by sharing this message with your community.
Hoping to see as many of you as possible,
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