Casey Brown schreef:
> Everyone seems to have huge ideas about fundraising! Would anyone be
> interested in discussing these ideas in real-time on IRC? I have set up an
> IRC channel for this purpose. If you are interested in discussing these
> ideas, either before you propose them somewhere else or just want to chat
> about them, I suggest you join #wikimedia-fundraising.
> irc://irc.freenode.org/Wikimedia-fundraising.
>
> Casey Brown
> Cbrown1023
>
> P.S. Anthony, since you seem to have very many ideas along this level, I
> suggest you join especially.
Notice: this channel is added to the webbased IRC-CGI service of
Wikizine - http://chat.wikizine.org - If this channel is dead after
some weeks/months it will be removed again. It is between
#wikimedia-commons and #wikimedia-fr in the pulldown menu. That is all.
- WalterBE
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I resigned as Chief Scientist of Solera Networks effective May 8, 2007
and am no longer employed there to allow me to devote 100% of my time to
the Wikipedia based business opportunities and several other businesses
I am starting.
Jeff
Everyone seems to have huge ideas about fundraising! Would anyone be
interested in discussing these ideas in real-time on IRC? I have set up an
IRC channel for this purpose. If you are interested in discussing these
ideas, either before you propose them somewhere else or just want to chat
about them, I suggest you join #wikimedia-fundraising.
irc://irc.freenode.org/Wikimedia-fundraising.
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023
P.S. Anthony, since you seem to have very many ideas along this level, I
suggest you join especially.
On 5/20/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> We should all know that the Foundation raises MILLIONS. :) However, I think
> what Anthony doesn't understand is that money is used in many different
> ways. We have to pay for servers, maintenance, we have to pay the staff, we
> have to pay for the domain, we're currently giving away scholarships to
> Wikimania... there's a lot of stuff that that money goes to and there are a
> lot more places we would like send it if we had more money. :)
>
Please, there's no need for you to accuse me of not knowing this.
Of course I know that the money is used, and I know to a large extent
how it's used.
Anthony
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Fwd: Re: business developer hire - whose decision?]
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:30:59 +0200
From: Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
To: foundation-l(a)wikimedia.org
I am sorry Anthony, but I actually answered to your question, but the
email did not make it to the list. This is something that regularly
happens with my emails to the lists, I have no idea why. I asked the
tech team, but they have no idea. I find the emails on my sent box, but
they do not make their way to the list. I wish I knew...
Anyway, here was the original answer to your question. To be more
precise on that matter, I sent an email to Carolyn on the 30th of april,
asking if we could register to http://www.afpnet.org/about_afp.
She answered to this email mentionning that she was thinking of hiring
Vishal as a contractant, to help on business, fundraising and
sponsorship. Vishal intern time was nearly over, she was happy with the
work he provided, and we need to replace Danny in some respects. He was
living about a week later. She joined his resume. We had a couple of
exchange on the matter (salary etc...).
I put the issue on the agenda of the following board meeting (2nd of
may). Presents were: Eloquence, Anthere, Kat Walsh, Jan-Bart , oscar and
mdavis.
There was no opposition voiced. The board asked that a job description
be provided. Michael recommanded that he be a part time employee rather
than a contractant.
Why did I announce him ? First because I think it is polite. Second
because due to the type of job he will do, it is important the community
knows he is part of the staff.
For the other answer, please see below.
ant
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: business developer hire - whose decision?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:38:39 +0200
From: Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation
References: <71cd4dd90705181122r4bb9fe8fgab40b51e7974770c(a)mail.gmail.com>
Anthony wrote:
> On 5/17/07, Florence Devouard
<Anthere9-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> We just hired Vishal Pattel as part-time business developer.
>
> Was this a board resolution, an agreement by consensus of all board
> members, or an act made by one or more individuals?
>
> Looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions very
> quickly, I don't see anything in the headings regarding the hire of a
> business developer.
>
> Anthony
This is agreed by board and Carolyn who proposed to hire him.
In the future, asap there is an ED, it will be the job of the ED to hire
staff (or to delegate hiring to some staff members). The job of the
board will only be to hire ED.
Ant
Casey Brown wrote:
> Also, Stpehen, your point doesn't hold much water. :) The Board is made up
> of volunteers, meaning, unlike the office staff, they are for much of the
> weekend as well. :)
Actually... it is worse than that. Thursday was a day off in France
(ascension). Friday was a day where my husband did not work and my kids
are not in school. So, I did not do much because everyone is at home and
expecting me to cook, clean, play with them and so on.
But I did answer to Anthony, but once again, as about 1 email amongst
10, my email did not make it to the Foundation list. I usually check
within 5 mn if they appear on the list, but in this case, I forgot. I
forwarded my answer, plus more details in another email.
I sent 3 emails, only 2 got through.
Ant
> And to Anthony, yes, I do believe I said something about this being an area
> of expertise for the COO.
>
> Cbrown1023
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anthony
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:57 AM
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] business developer hire - whose decision?
>
> On 5/19/07, Stephen Bain <stephen.bain(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/19/07, Anthony <wikilegal(a)inbox.org> wrote:
>>> Frankly I have no idea why this would be kept such a secret.
>> Noone from the Foundation has replied yet, probably because it's the
>> weekend. Perhaps everyone should just wait until they do instead of
>> arguing in circles with each other.
>>
> Ant posted two messages to this list after I asked the question.
>
> However, Erik has now answered it to some extent (idea came from
> Carolyn, board apparently informally agreed with it).
>
> Anthony
>
> _______________________________________________
> foundation-l mailing list
> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
I am sorry Anthony, but I actually answered to your question, but the
email did not make it to the list. This is something that regularly
happens with my emails to the lists, I have no idea why. I asked the
tech team, but they have no idea. I find the emails on my sent box, but
they do not make their way to the list. I wish I knew...
Anyway, here was the original answer to your question. To be more
precise on that matter, I sent an email to Carolyn on the 30th of april,
asking if we could register to http://www.afpnet.org/about_afp.
She answered to this email mentionning that she was thinking of hiring
Vishal as a contractant, to help on business, fundraising and
sponsorship. Vishal intern time was nearly over, she was happy with the
work he provided, and we need to replace Danny in some respects. He was
living about a week later. She joined his resume. We had a couple of
exchange on the matter (salary etc...).
I put the issue on the agenda of the following board meeting (2nd of
may). Presents were: Eloquence, Anthere, Kat Walsh, Jan-Bart , oscar and
mdavis.
There was no opposition voiced. The board asked that a job description
be provided. Michael recommanded that he be a part time employee rather
than a contractant.
Why did I announce him ? First because I think it is polite. Second
because due to the type of job he will do, it is important the community
knows he is part of the staff.
For the other answer, please see below.
ant
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: business developer hire - whose decision?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:38:39 +0200
From: Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation
References: <71cd4dd90705181122r4bb9fe8fgab40b51e7974770c(a)mail.gmail.com>
Anthony wrote:
> On 5/17/07, Florence Devouard
<Anthere9-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> We just hired Vishal Pattel as part-time business developer.
>
> Was this a board resolution, an agreement by consensus of all board
> members, or an act made by one or more individuals?
>
> Looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions very
> quickly, I don't see anything in the headings regarding the hire of a
> business developer.
>
> Anthony
This is agreed by board and Carolyn who proposed to hire him.
In the future, asap there is an ED, it will be the job of the ED to hire
staff (or to delegate hiring to some staff members). The job of the
board will only be to hire ED.
Ant
On 5/18/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I disagree. We really do not need to know the inner workings and what-not
> of hirings. Although, I do admit that yours is a valid question, though I
> do not believe it is for the reason you provided. It is a valid question
> for the sake of questioning and knowledge's sake, not to be "an informed
> voter".
>
> Cbrown1023
Not true. Wikimedia projects are communities, and the communities should be
allowed to know, for the most part, what goes on within the WMF (there are
some exceptions of course, like confidential things, business deals that
haven't been announced yet, etc, but I don't see how the process of creating
a new position requires confidentiality).
On 5/17/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> We just hired Vishal Pattel as part-time business developer.
Was this a board resolution, an agreement by consensus of all board
members, or an act made by one or more individuals?
Looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions very
quickly, I don't see anything in the headings regarding the hire of a
business developer.
Anthony
As a UK media contact for Wikimedia, so I get all sorts of stuff in my
email. One I just got was for a demonstration/picket to be held in
London soon, from the group protesting. Let's assume I'm unable to
make it to cover it myself ... is there anywhere to put these things
for those who may be interested in going out with a notepad and
camera?
(I asked on the Water Cooler, but I have no idea if anyone is reading it.)
- d.