> It's just a matter of pushing the right buttons.
What bothers me, actually, is that nothing appears in the logs on the site concerning your changes, so I wonder how you did? With your developer access?
> Erik
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--- Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:28:51 -0800 (PST), Daniel Mayer
> <maveric149(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > There is also the technical point that the foundation does not yet own the
> > Wikiversity name, domain name, or trademark. I will of course transfer all
> > that as soon as the project is officially approved.
>
> You already did that:
Ah, forgot about that. Good � it�s already been done. :)
> We do need to register the trademark though. Is there an up to date
> list anywhere of which trademarks are registered (or have at least
> been applied for)?
You�d have to ask Jimbo.
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> that seems reasonable to me. I have added a site notice to the effect
> that Wikiversity is not yet an official Wikimedia project, with a link
> to your mailing list post.
Hey, glad you're already sysop there! You just discovered it exists, and been elected sysop in one day, pretty fast :)
(unless the mediawiki namespace wasn't protected there, of course)
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Hoi,
All discussion on the WikiData proposal is explicitly welcome. When you
are interested in cooperating in the development of WikiData, you are
more than welcome to do so. With the details of the RFC you find the
likely timetable will be. When you are interested in helping in the
development of the project you are more than welcome.
The part where the GEMET database will be implemented in the Mediawiki
software is included because the design and the data of this database
can both be used based on the GEMET data that can be found here:
http://www.eionet.eu.int/GEMET. This is a big important body of work
and already has data in 20 languages, it will allow us to add content in
any and all other languages and it is included because it will give us
the opportunity to experiment with the user interface. The current GEMET
database does have XML data available and we are hopefull that we will
find people willing to help with an XML import and export module.
The development as outlined in the plan is what will be done. With more
people working on the project we will be able to get better
functionality. It is a project that is part of the Mediawiki environment
and as such it is open for colaboration.
By not commenting before the deadline the project will start on the
given date. By commenting before the deadline the project may start a
week later if the comments make this a necessity. At all times comments
are invited.
Thanks,
GerardM
Jonathan Leybovich wrote:
> Hi All-
>
> I was wondering what the proper channel would be for voicing
> suggestions/comments about the technical design of the WikiData
> project. I guess this would be the WikiData discussion page on Meta,
> but this has not been updated in a while and I wanted to make a few
> comments before the Ultimate Wiktionary deadline.
>
> Also, how will development work be coordinated? The Ultimate
> Wiktionary project page implies Eric will be doing all the
> development, and though I am happy to follow his lead (as well as let
> him claim the contract ;) I would like to help with development as I
> am preparing a project proposal that will have WikiData functionality
> as a prerequisite. Thanks.
>
>
> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>
>> Hoi,
>>
>> I am very happy to announce that Kennisnet is willing to
>> underwrite/pay for the creation of wikidata and the ultimate
>> wiktionary. This will allow us to host relational data within a
>> Mediawiki environment. Wikidata will particularly enhance projects
>> like Wikispecies and Wiktionary where a lot of the relevant data is
>> relational in nature. The details of this project can be found here:
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RfP_Wikidata_and_Ultimate_Wiktionary
>>
>> Thanks, :)
>> GerardM
>
--- Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> My understanding is that this was all discussed ages ago, and the
> project's just been waiting on the external funding (which hasn't quite
> happened yet).
Discussed, yes. Decided, no. Please don�t create new projects again (even in
beta) without at least explicit board approval (which should in turn should not
be granted until *after* a community-wide vote informs their decision).
There is also the technical point that the foundation does not yet own the
Wikiversity name, domain name, or trademark. I will of course transfer all that
as soon as the project is officially approved.
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Yes, I'll flush things out more with some extended
examples. I'll also attempt to show how Wikirec might
be folded into a Wikidata or WikiGIS. Thanks for the
input.
Joe
--- Sj <2.718281828(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Joe: To test out the feasibility of what you
> describe, whether or not
> it would end up being part of a larger project, you
> should start by
> creating 3 or 4 sample pages. Perhaps you can do
> this in your user
> space on meta... then we can figure out whether to
> develop it further
> there, help launch a new project, etc.
>
> SJ
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:43:57 -0800 (PST), Galloway
> Joe
> <threestudindia(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'd like to announce a proposed new project,
> currently
> > titled Wikirec,
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikirec. A wiki
> for
> > outdoor recreation and locations. Thanks
> >
> > Joe
> >
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--- Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Galloway Joe wrote:
> > I'd like to announce a proposed new project, currently
> > titled Wikirec, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikirec
>
> Sj wrote:
> > Interesting. I think this would make more sense as part of a general
> > wikigeography project...
>
> I agree with Sj that this would be better as part of a project with a
> broader scope.
>
> Related proposals on Meta include:
> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimaps>
> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiatlas>
> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGPS>
> <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimaps/GeonamenDB>
Also wikiGIS (the .com and .org of that and wikimaps are owned by the
foundation; or at least registered by me and awaiting the foundation to claim
them from me)
Yep � this all needs to be in one uber-project that has highly-structured data
in a relational database. The wikidata module needs to be developed before this
type of project could exist, however. I hear there is some possible funding for
that.
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Poor, Edmund W wrote:
[from wikien-l - Ed is talking about another foundation,
not the WMF, who are interested in doing a Wikipedia
distribution]
> The foundation plans to hire professional editors and
> writers. They'll create, say, an additional 4,000
> articles (on lofty topics, no doubt ;-) and also
> choose a subset of the half million Wikipedia articles
> to whip into shape.
> But I'm recommending to the foundation that any
> articles it revises be posted back to Wikipedia
> immediately - as opposed to waiting until their
> publication day. (I don't know the legal niceties; is
> prompt re-publication a requirement, or can they hang
> on to their version in-house till the last minute?)
> BOTH projects would surely benefit from this cross-
> pollination.
Heh. I wonder how their versions will go down with the Wikipedia community.
Are they familiar with the history of Nupedia?
Have you read [[Category:Wikipedia 1.0]] ? I've been putting project pages
into it that I think are relevant to the endeavour.
Also, the Wikimedia Foundation would beyond a doubt be highly interested in
working with this other foundation!
> I'd like to do whatever I can to reduce the 'forkiness' of
> the foundation's project and increase the 'give-and-take-iness'
> of it. Collaboration has been the key of Wikipedia's success;
> let's not change horses in midstream.
Indeed!
- d.
--- Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> There is indeed funding for WikiData. Programming will start within two
> weeks. WikiData will be a buildingblock within the MediaWiki software.
> It will indeed enable new projects.
>
> Initially there are two prime candidates for Wikidata: Wiktionary and
> Wikispecies. The implementation of "the ultimate wiktionary" is part of
> the implementation of Wikidata.
For Wikimaps to work, a single record would need to be IDd as being associated
with a particular point, line, polygon, or raster coordinate feature. That
record would contain one to many fields of user-inputable and human readable
data. Developing a way to tie that into a true wiki-editable GIS (meaning users
could move points, lines, and polygons; since rasters are effectively images,
editing them will be difficult) will require a separate module (call that the
WikiGIS module if you like). That module would also need to support exporting
to popular GIS formats, such as shapefiles and geodatabases.
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