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Sven Manguard

5 Jul 5 Jul

11:16 p.m.

I am not convinced that *any* investment of time or resources into Google Plus would not be a waste. Do you have figures for the number of people in the community that use Google Plus and are not on any other information channel, including the mailing list? I suspect that the number is extremely low, possibly zero. Spending time on something solely because it is there makes very little sense. Instead of trying to cover a large number of platforms, we should be covering the ones people actually use and deleting accounts on the ones that aren't in use, so that people migrate to the active forums. In an effort to be accommodating, we have spread ourselves too thin, and information has fallen through the cracks. When it comes to information channels, we need to shift from quantity to quality. -Sven (not a Wikimania organizer) On Jul 5, 2014 12:55 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi, I've been monitoring the Wikimania page on Google plus for some time now and its managed to go a year solid without any activity. https://plus.google.com/116447448432892218985 Its likely obvious it needs someone to contribute to. I'm sure the current managers of the page are die hard twitter and Facebook users. Thus o believe bringing die hard Google plus users to manage the page will also help. If I can assist in this way, I'll be glad to. I only have my official presence on google plus, so you can be assured it won't be inactive. [[User:Nkansahrexford]] rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from smartphone _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

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Richard Symonds

7 Jul 7 Jul

6:27 p.m.

Does anyone know who has the logins for it? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 6 July 2014 08:12, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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As long as pages are not meant for the community alone, but the general public as well, I don't see it is o be a waste of time. If media wiki and Wikimedia foundation page on google plus aren't a waste of time at least yet, thrn having Wikimania active there wouldn't also be. The page already exist on google plus not that I'm saying it should be created. I'm just calling for the page to be active. By the way, this isn't convincing as well. rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from smartphone On Jul 5, 2014 5:17 PM, "Sven Manguard" <svenmanguard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I am not convinced that *any* investment of time or resources into Google Plus would not be a waste. Do you have figures for the number of people in the community that use Google Plus and are not on any other information channel, including the mailing list? I suspect that the number is extremely low, possibly zero. Spending time on something solely because it is there makes very little sense. Instead of trying to cover a large number of platforms, we should be covering the ones people actually use and deleting accounts on the ones that aren't in use, so that people migrate to the active forums. In an effort to be accommodating, we have spread ourselves too thin, and information has fallen through the cracks. When it comes to information channels, we need to shift from quantity to quality. -Sven (not a Wikimania organizer) On Jul 5, 2014 12:55 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I've been monitoring the Wikimania page on Google plus for some time now and its managed to go a year solid without any activity. https://plus.google.com/116447448432892218985 Its likely obvious it needs someone to contribute to. I'm sure the current managers of the page are die hard twitter and Facebook users. Thus o believe bringing die hard Google plus users to manage the page will also help. If I can assist in this way, I'll be glad to. I only have my official presence on google plus, so you can be assured it won't be inactive. [[User:Nkansahrexford]] rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from smartphone _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

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Nkansah Rexford

7:09 p.m.

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From facebook comment:

Naureen Nayyar <https://www.facebook.com/norabean?fref=ufi> Hi! I've realized this myself and we are working on an issue with our hootsuite and plan to incorporate things then. Cheers ! July 5 at 1:23pm <https://www.facebook.com/groups/330260817121833/permalink/343042752510306/?comment_id=343246075823307&offset=0&total_comments=3> · On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Tom Morris <tom(a)tommorris.org> wrote:

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I agree wholeheartedly with the suggestion that more time is spent posting Wikimania-related content on Google+. It is very important that we ensure that Google+'s diverse, international user base of Google employees are able to keep track of what is going on with Wikimania. ;-) -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

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Joseph Fox

9:16 p.m.

Keep calm everyone, it’s only Google+. J On 7 July 2014 at 02:14:01 pm, Daniel Schwen (lists(a)schwen.de) wrote: Hahahahahahahahaha, jokes about Google+ will NEVER get old. Wait, they actually have :-(. OK does anyone find the "Lol, Google+ is dumb, Facebook rulezors!!!" stuff still funny? On Jul 7, 2014 4:41 AM, "Tom Morris" <tom(a)tommorris.org> wrote: I agree wholeheartedly with the suggestion that more time is spent posting Wikimania-related content on Google+. It is very important that we ensure that Google+’s diverse, international user base of Google employees are able to keep track of what is going on with Wikimania. ;-) -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Joseph Fox Sent with Airmail

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Joseph Fox

9:28 p.m.

If someone's willing to put the time in then they're free to of course and should be allowed the opportunity. I, and several others I'd wager, just feel that it is time wasted and better spent elsewhere. J *Joseph Fox* enwp.org/user:foxj On 7 July 2014 14:26, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:

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cmon people, no need to make fun of a suggestion like this. Clearly Rexford feels that a Google+ presence is important, and he is willing to invest time into it. If he does, that's great and I hope the organizing team gives him the opportunity. Best, Lodewijk 2014-07-07 15:16 GMT+02:00 Joseph Fox <josephfoxwiki(a)gmail.com>om>: Keep calm everyone, it’s only Google+.

J On 7 July 2014 at 02:14:01 pm, Daniel Schwen (lists(a)schwen.de) wrote: Hahahahahahahahaha, jokes about Google+ will NEVER get old. Wait, they actually have :-(. OK does anyone find the "Lol, Google+ is dumb, Facebook rulezors!!!" stuff still funny? On Jul 7, 2014 4:41 AM, "Tom Morris" <tom(a)tommorris.org> wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly with the suggestion that more time is spent posting Wikimania-related content on Google+. It is very important that we ensure that Google+’s diverse, international user base of Google employees are able to keep track of what is going on with Wikimania. ;-) -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________

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Daniel Schwen

9:33 p.m.

If half as much effort as on this single thread was spent on Google+ we'd have a petty active page. On Jul 7, 2014 7:28 AM, "Joseph Fox" <josephfoxwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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If someone's willing to put the time in then they're free to of course and should be allowed the opportunity. I, and several others I'd wager, just feel that it is time wasted and better spent elsewhere. J *Joseph Fox* enwp.org/user:foxj On 7 July 2014 14:26, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:

cmon people, no need to make fun of a suggestion like this. Clearly Rexford feels that a Google+ presence is important, and he is willing to invest time into it. If he does, that's great and I hope the organizing team gives him the opportunity. Best, Lodewijk 2014-07-07 15:16 GMT+02:00 Joseph Fox <josephfoxwiki(a)gmail.com>om>: Keep calm everyone, it’s only Google+.

J On 7 July 2014 at 02:14:01 pm, Daniel Schwen (lists(a)schwen.de) wrote: Hahahahahahahahaha, jokes about Google+ will NEVER get old. Wait, they actually have :-(. OK does anyone find the "Lol, Google+ is dumb, Facebook rulezors!!!" stuff still funny? On Jul 7, 2014 4:41 AM, "Tom Morris" <tom(a)tommorris.org> wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly with the suggestion that more time is spent posting Wikimania-related content on Google+. It is very important that we ensure that Google+’s diverse, international user base of Google employees are able to keep track of what is going on with Wikimania. ;-) -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________

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Daniel Schwen

9:52 p.m.

Rimshot. :-) Anyhow, crossposting to multiple social networks is not really a big overhead. As far as I know there are existing tools for that. An abandoned page just make is look bad. No matter which network it is on. On Jul 7, 2014 7:48 AM, "Chris McKenna" <chris.mckenna(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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On 7 Jul 2014 14:33, "Daniel Schwen" <lists(a)schwen.de> wrote:

If half as much effort as on this single thread was spent on Google+

we'd have a petty active page.

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Asaf Bartov

8 Jul 8 Jul

8:53 a.m.

Without expressing an opinion on the question at hand[1], it is perhaps relevant to remember that Rexford is wearing two hats in this conversation: beside being a Wikimedian, he has also been involved in promoting Google's products and platforms, and this thread may be read in that light. A. [1] a plague on both their houses, I say. The conference will do fine with just e-mail and a Web site, IMO. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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@Daniel, the crossposting is something that Naureen is looking into. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Daniel Schwen <lists(a)schwen.de> wrote:

Rimshot. :-) Anyhow, crossposting to multiple social networks is not really a big overhead. As far as I know there are existing tools for that. An abandoned page just make is look bad. No matter which network it is on. On Jul 7, 2014 7:48 AM, "Chris McKenna" <chris.mckenna(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

On 7 Jul 2014 14:33, "Daniel Schwen" <lists(a)schwen.de> wrote:

If half as much effort as on this single thread was spent on Google+

we'd have a petty active page.

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Chris McKenna

9:28 p.m.

I don't find the jokes especially funny, but equally I don't disagree with the sentiment - there is exactly 0 people I know who use Google+ who don't use Facebook and only a small fraction of the hundreds I know on Facebook who also use Google+. At this point in history engaging on Google+ is as useful as engaging on MySpace or Diaspora or whatever the Facebook fork the BBC briefly hyped is called. On 7 Jul 2014 14:17, "Joseph Fox" <josephfoxwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Keep calm everyone, it’s only Google+. J On 7 July 2014 at 02:14:01 pm, Daniel Schwen (lists(a)schwen.de) wrote: Hahahahahahahahaha, jokes about Google+ will NEVER get old. Wait, they actually have :-(. OK does anyone find the "Lol, Google+ is dumb, Facebook rulezors!!!" stuff still funny? On Jul 7, 2014 4:41 AM, "Tom Morris" <tom(a)tommorris.org> wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly with the suggestion that more time is spent posting Wikimania-related content on Google+. It is very important that we ensure that Google+’s diverse, international user base of Google employees are able to keep track of what is going on with Wikimania. ;-) -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________

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