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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:07:45 -0400
From: Justin Quintal <cestmoijustin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 12
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heh, so true, it's just informations...

Say, is UAE pretty far from your place?

2011/11/2 Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com>

> I am afriad that virtual embassy also issues virtual visas. it still just
> a word nothing solid yet
> Mardetanha
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>>   1. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (B?ria Lima)
>>   2. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Justin Quintal)
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>>   4. Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Justin Quintal)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:31:37 +0000
>> From: B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
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>> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
>>
>> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa, still
>> need a USA visa to get into USA.
>>
>> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
>> _____
>> *B?ria Lima*
>> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>>
>> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
>> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>>
>>
>> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
>> > visa
>> > > doesn't help.
>> > Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
>> > I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
>> > passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
>> > directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
>> > Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
>> > are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
>> > isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
>> > between Schengen countries in Europe).
>> >
>> > That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
>> > Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
>> > consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
>> > circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
>> > his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
>> > he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
>> > allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
>> > the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
>> > you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
>> > what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
>> > for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
>> > away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
>> > talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
>> >
>> > Roan
>> >
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>> From: Justin Quintal <cestmoijustin@gmail.com>
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>> Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...
>>
>> 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>
>>
>> > Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
>> >
>> > 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,
>> > still  need a USA visa to get into USA.
>> >
>> > Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
>> >
>> > _____
>> > *B?ria Lima*
>> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>> >
>> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
>> > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
>> >> visa
>> >> > doesn't help.
>> >> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
>> >> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
>> >> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
>> >> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
>> >> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
>> >> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
>> >> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
>> >> between Schengen countries in Europe).
>> >>
>> >> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
>> >> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
>> >> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
>> >> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
>> >> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
>> >> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
>> >> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
>> >> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
>> >> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
>> >> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
>> >> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
>> >> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
>> >> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
>> >>
>> >> Roan
>> >>
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>> From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
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>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:26:11 -0400
>> From: cestmoijustin@gmail.com
>> To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
>>
>> Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...
>>
>> 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>
>>
>> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
>>
>> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa, still
>>  need a USA visa to get into USA.
>>
>>
>>
>> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)_____
>> B?ria Lima
>> (351) 925 171 484
>>
>>
>> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
>> estamos a fazer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
>> visa
>>
>> > doesn't help.
>>
>> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
>>
>> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
>>
>> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
>>
>> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
>>
>> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
>>
>> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
>>
>> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
>>
>> between Schengen countries in Europe).
>>
>>
>>
>> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
>>
>> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
>>
>> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
>>
>> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
>>
>> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
>>
>> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
>>
>> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
>>
>> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
>>
>> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
>>
>> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
>>
>> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
>>
>> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
>>
>> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Roan
>>
>>
>>
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>> 2011/11/2 Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk>
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>> >  in some months?
>> >
>> >
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>> > ------------------------------
>> > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:26:11 -0400
>> > From: cestmoijustin@gmail.com
>> > To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
>> >
>> > Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...
>> >
>> > 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
>> >
>> > 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,
>> > still  need a USA visa to get into USA.
>> >
>> > Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
>> >
>> > _____
>> > *B?ria Lima*
>> > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>> >
>> > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
>> > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
>> > visa
>> > > doesn't help.
>> > Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
>> > I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
>> > passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
>> > directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
>> > Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
>> > are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
>> > isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
>> > between Schengen countries in Europe).
>> >
>> > That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
>> > Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
>> > consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
>> > circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
>> > his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
>> > he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
>> > allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
>> > the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
>> > you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
>> > what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
>> > for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
>> > away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
>> > talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
>> >
>> > Roan
>> >
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