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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Visa Acquisition Assistance (Deryck Chan)
2. Re: Visa Acquisition Assistance (Amir Ladsgroup)
3. Re: Visa Acquisition Assistance (Amir Ladsgroup)
4. Re: a thought: break events (Samuel Klein)
5. Re: Deryck Chan, a specific thank you (Anirudh Bhati)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:22:15 +0800
From: Deryck Chan <deryckchan@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
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Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the
visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his
visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com> wrote:
> Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
>
> For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This
> brings us much joy.
>
> That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local
> organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of
> inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
>
> I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping
> countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking
> countries.
>
> I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted
> and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from
> semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
>
> Rexford
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:57:15 +0430
From: Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup@gmail.com>
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I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa
in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in
time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the
government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan <deryckchan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the
> visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
>
> Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his
> visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
>
>
> On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
>>
>> For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This
>> brings us much joy.
>>
>> That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local
>> organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of
>> inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
>>
>> I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping
>> countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking
>> countries.
>>
>> I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted
>> and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from
>> semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
>>
>> Rexford
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 21:01:50 +0430
From: Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup@gmail.com>
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I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa
in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in
time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the
government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan <deryckchan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the
> visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
>
> Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his
> visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
>
>
> On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
>>
>> For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This
>> brings us much joy.
>>
>> That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local
>> organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of
>> inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
>>
>> I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping
>> countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking
>> countries.
>>
>> I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted
>> and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from
>> semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
>>
>> Rexford
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Central<https://plus.google.com/b/103109918657638322478/103109918657638322478/posts>
>> |
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:54:18 -0400
From: Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] a thought: break events
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On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 15 August 2013 00:03, Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Wikimania should have less parallel sessions,
>> >< longer sessions with more time between the sessions
>> >> and an "open space" as an additional track.
>> >
>> > I've been wanting fewer sessions at Wikimania for a long time.
>>
>> I agree totally. We can rethink the traditional program entirely.
>>
>> Imagine a Wikimania where
>> * the only "talks" or presentations are Plenary sessions
>> * all other sessions [ share docs in advance, have discussion in advance,
<< are group discussions + interactions, have a facilitator, produce output ]
>
> I dunno. That sounds fundamentally unwiki, and an awful lot like the
> professional annual meetings that everyone hates attending.
You may be reading something else into my suggestion.
The only docs shared in advance would be those that the presenter
would otherwise 'broadcast' to the audience.
A session that was already designed as a discussion might not have
anything more than the talk-abstract to share.
This should not privilege experienced presenters. It does encourage
people to start conversations and provide knowledge-dumps online. That
way the time spent together can focus on collaboration, and developing
new ideas together.
> quite a few [sessions] included "up to the minute" information and data.
Yes. The presenter and any interested parties could update the wiki
page of materials with the latest data, up until it starts (or even
during the session).
> What I'd like to see is live-streaming of sessions with moderation that
> could include online questions for the sessions.
This is important, and one of the reasons to have moderators.
> Some sessions are of professional quality, some others gain their energy
> from the presentation itself or the perceived importance of the topic, and
> others simply by being presented by sincere and caring community members.
True. Presenters should be welcome to give a half-hour speech if
that's what they want -- it can be fun and energizing -- but this does
not need to be the default. Many sessions would benefit from spending
the bulk of their time in discussion rather than broadcasting.
< The best session I saw this year... was about the Javanese
Wikipedia, and it was
> the one that was so full of hope and joy at the prospect of sharing knowledge freely
> that the few of us who were in the room walked away with a refreshed sense
> of what our movement is all about.
>
> You can't capture that with slides or plenary sessions or expert moderation.
> You need to be in the room.
This sort of hope and joy is indeed the heart and soul of Wikimania. I
think Sophie picked up on the hope in my suggestion: that we find
a different way to amplify and share such joy, and help more people
have this experience.
Our community moderators did a great job this year; they aren't
"experts" : just people who enjoy that role. The presenter need not
be responsible for tracking live, online, and wiki questions, unless
they want to be. They should be focused on sharing their ideas, and
responding to feedback. It is enough to ask one participant in each
session to take on the role of moderator; and another to take on the
role of the recorder - capturing the outcome of the session and
posting it online.
Sam.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 03:05:39 +0700
From: Anirudh Bhati <anirudhsbh@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Deryck Chan, a specific thank you
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I was very happy with the amount of personal attention that Deryck paid to
the participants staying at the dorms, supported by his team at all times.
Well-rested participants are a key component of a well-organized event. (-:
A big thank you to Deryck and his team!
Anirudh
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:44 PM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.ayers@gmail.com>wrote:
> And Deryck coordinated the program and made it work! He definitely played
> a big role in the conference :)
>
> -- phoebe
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> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Benoit Rochon <brochon@wikimedia.ca>wrote:
>
>> I'd like to point out the work of Deryck Chan, who was there for us,
>> with his group of volunteers, from dusk 'til dawn at the dorms. Mr. Chan
>> act as a facilitator for the foreigners that we are, and I want to thank
>> him personally for his availability and his patience! We all come from
>> different cultures, and some things may look not important for some of us,
>> but for the hosts, it was a big thing.
>>
>> "When in Rome, do as the Romans do": few of us broke rules in Hong Kong,
>> me first, and probably without knowing, but Deryck had the patience to
>> explain this many times.
>>
>> Last night, he mentioned to me "Wikimania is so big, it's hard to manage
>> all this". Well Deryck, you did great; as we say in French: "Une poigne de
>> fer dans un gant de velour."
>>
>> So, Deryck Chan, please let me give you an high five. You earn it.
>>
>> Now rest please! :-)
>>
>> Benoit Rochon
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