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Matej Grochal

12 Sep 2012 12 Sep '12

8:21 p.m.

Dear colleagues, The Slovak Wikimedia would like to start the Slovak version of WLM. We don't have sponsors, but we thought that we should start somehow. We know that it is a bit late in the game, but we thought: better late than never. Any thoughts? Thanks, Matej Grochal (Jetam2)

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Karl Gruber

12 Sep 12 Sep

8:54 p.m.

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Karl Gruber

8:55 p.m.

A little bit explanation for the statusquo: All the monuments (appr. 15.000) are listed in the Wiki-sk. Datasource is the national monument board. Each community, where monuments can be found have an own list. Corresponding for each slovak list a list is existing in the german wikipedia, so the uploadpossibilities are existing from both wikipedias. The schema of lists is built up corresponding the austrian lists in the german wikipedia. Only the monument ID looks like a little bit other but is unique. the Statusquo of lists you can fin in http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Monumen… But we need support to buit up the structures also in the total WLM. thanks a lot in advance regards Karl Gruber Wikipedia User:Karl Gruber (Home wiki:de)

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Lodewijk

9:03 p.m.

Hi Matej, I'm very glad to hear there's so much interest in organizing Wiki Loves Monuments! While I don't consider it realistic to join in 2012 still, it should definitely be possible to either organize something specifically in Slovakia (using a similar competition model under a different name? You can still use all the software and lessons we learned!) or join again in 2013. If you organize something specific for Slovakia in two or three months, you would still have enough time to organize everything locally. Trying to do that within the WLM framework I expect to be too complicated (while I should compliment you on your lists!). I would of course be happy to help you on your way with that. You can find all documentation on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Documen… which also includes a lot of helpful lessons. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/12 Matej Grochal <ggrosi48(a)gmail.com>

Dear colleagues, The Slovak Wikimedia would like to start the Slovak version of WLM. We don't have sponsors, but we thought that we should start somehow. We know that it is a bit late in the game, but we thought: better late than never. Any thoughts? Thanks, Matej Grochal (Jetam2) _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

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Karl Gruber

9:27 p.m.

He Lodewijk, I know too, that the count of pictures will not be very high in this year, but until now, there are aproximately more then 100 pictures without any advertizing only through existing of the 1500 lists in the sk-wiki. Only in the database, which us Alex (from Austria) has installed is the problem, that the content of both wiki are in one list twice. But this problem is knwn by Multichil (persuant Alex). Only the homepage wikilovesmonument.sk does not exist :-). So I think in the small area it would be possible to be a part of WLM worldwide this year too.;-) regards Karl

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Platonides

9:30 p.m.

On 12/09/12 23:03, Lodewijk wrote:

Hi Matej, I'm very glad to hear there's so much interest in organizing Wiki Loves Monuments! While I don't consider it realistic to join in 2012 still, it should definitely be possible to either organize something specifically in Slovakia (using a similar competition model under a different name? You can still use all the software and lessons we learned!) or join again in 2013. If you organize something specific for Slovakia in two or three months, you would still have enough time to organize everything locally. Trying to do that within the WLM framework I expect to be too complicated (while I should compliment you on your lists!). I would of course be happy to help you on your way with that. You can find all documentation on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Documen… which also includes a lot of helpful lessons. Best, Lodewijk

They might do it from 15 Sep to 15 Oct or similar*. They could also join to Israel timeline (2012-09-13 21:00:00 - 2012-10-14 20:59:59 UTC). Not something I'd like to be tasked with at all, but not completely impossible either. * Although there's the possibility to make the contest longer, your jury would need to be faster to still meet the Nov 1 deadline.

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Platonides

9:22 p.m.

On 12/09/12 22:21, Matej Grochal wrote:

Dear colleagues, The Slovak Wikimedia would like to start the Slovak version of WLM. We don't have sponsors, but we thought that we should start somehow. We know that it is a bit late in the game, but we thought: better late than never. Any thoughts? Thanks, Matej Grochal (Jetam2)

The first two words that crossed my mind were "too late". :) We are now in the middle of WLM 2012. I would have considered it very late even at the last weeks of August, although maybe still workable. What resources do you have ready for joining to WLM 2012? Do you have the lists of Slovakia monuments published in the wiki, in the templated form expected by the bot? And several people which agreed or half-agreed to be the jury for this edition? Even if you have them (specially the lists!), you would be in a hurry to prepare things like the website «for yesterday». My recommendation is to slowly start preparing for Wiki Loves Monuments 2013. You can begin organising it from today (most of the work is time-agnostic), but a deadline of September 2013 is a much more reasonable one. Just my 2 cents. Best regards I hope to see you next year.

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Karl Gruber

9:33 p.m.

Hi platonides It was an hard work for some people, to get the statusquo and so the put so - come next year - is very hard and not motivating for the other user around. :-( regards Karl

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Platonides

10:16 p.m.

On 12/09/12 23:33, Karl Gruber wrote:

Hi platonides It was an hard work for some people, to get the statusquo and so the put so - come next year - is very hard and not motivating for the other user around. :-( regards Karl

I knew it wasn't what you wanted to hear, but I still felt it was the right answer. I was surprised to learn that you already have the lists ready. If you are decided, I'd set the dates and go for it. Can Wikimedia SK pay the awards or you would need financial help from iternational WLM? It's completely unexpected, but surely there's some budget that could be assigned to you if needed. An recruit your jury.

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Tomasz Ganicz

13 Sep 13 Sep

9:28 a.m.

2012/9/13 Platonides <platonides(a)gmail.com>om>:

On 12/09/12 23:33, Karl Gruber wrote:

Hi platonides It was an hard work for some people, to get the statusquo and so the put so - come next year - is very hard and not motivating for the other user around. :-( regards Karl

I knew it wasn't what you wanted to hear, but I still felt it was the right answer. I was surprised to learn that you already have the lists ready. If you are decided, I'd set the dates and go for it. Can Wikimedia SK pay the awards or you would need financial help from iternational WLM? It's completely unexpected, but surely there's some budget that could be assigned to you if needed. An recruit your jury.

Well... if there is no other option - we can probably pay for prizes for our neighbours :-) Prizes in cash would be problematic - but we can for example buy books about photography or some cheap photo equipment and then send it to Slovakian winners. -- Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz

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Karl Gruber

9:43 a.m.

Hi Tomasz, Also as neighbour from SK I find it good feeling about the help together. Prices in cash I would not prefer too. Books about various monuments or similar I can imagine, that these are adaequat prices. It's also dependant if there are a true award ceremony or if the prices are sent via poste to the winner. But this should be a decision from SK itself regards Karl Am 13.09.2012 11:28, schrieb Tomasz Ganicz:

2012/9/13 Platonides <platonides(a)gmail.com>om>:

On 12/09/12 23:33, Karl Gruber wrote:

Hi platonides It was an hard work for some people, to get the statusquo and so the put so - come next year - is very hard and not motivating for the other user around. :-( regards Karl

I knew it wasn't what you wanted to hear, but I still felt it was the right answer. I was surprised to learn that you already have the lists ready. If you are decided, I'd set the dates and go for it. Can Wikimedia SK pay the awards or you would need financial help from iternational WLM? It's completely unexpected, but surely there's some budget that could be assigned to you if needed. An recruit your jury.

Well... if there is no other option - we can probably pay for prizes for our neighbours :-) Prizes in cash would be problematic - but we can for example buy books about photography or some cheap photo equipment and then send it to Slovakian winners.

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emijrp

9:49 a.m.

In Spain we will award #1 an e-book reader, #2 a 3GB external hard-disk and #3 a book about Wikipedia. Also t-shirts and other merchandising for all. And the paper which says "you participated in WLM and won" (not sure which word is in English). In the case you can get some ideas from us. 2012/9/13 Karl Gruber <karl(a)wb-gruber.at>

Hi Tomasz, Also as neighbour from SK I find it good feeling about the help together. Prices in cash I would not prefer too. Books about various monuments or similar I can imagine, that these are adaequat prices. It's also dependant if there are a true award ceremony or if the prices are sent via poste to the winner. But this should be a decision from SK itself regards Karl Am 13.09.2012 11:28, schrieb Tomasz Ganicz: 2012/9/13 Platonides <platonides(a)gmail.com>om>:

On 12/09/12 23:33, Karl Gruber wrote:

Hi platonides It was an hard work for some people, to get the statusquo and so the put so - come next year - is very hard and not motivating for the other user around. :-( regards Karl

I knew it wasn't what you wanted to hear, but I still felt it was the right answer. I was surprised to learn that you already have the lists ready. If you are decided, I'd set the dates and go for it. Can Wikimedia SK pay the awards or you would need financial help from iternational WLM? It's completely unexpected, but surely there's some budget that could be assigned to you if needed. An recruit your jury. Well... if there is no other option - we can probably pay for prizes

for our neighbours :-) Prizes in cash would be problematic - but we can for example buy books about photography or some cheap photo equipment and then send it to Slovakian winners.

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emijrp

12 Sep 12 Sep

9:40 p.m.

I don't think it is late, there are almost 3 weeks until end of september, and you may expand the contest further if needed. Perhaps you can ask for a grant, and get some money for little awards. I just did the map for Slovakia http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/wlm/slovakia/ GO GO GO GO 2012/9/12 Matej Grochal <ggrosi48(a)gmail.com>

Dear colleagues, The Slovak Wikimedia would like to start the Slovak version of WLM. We don't have sponsors, but we thought that we should start somehow. We know that it is a bit late in the game, but we thought: better late than never. Any thoughts? Thanks, Matej Grochal (Jetam2) _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

-- Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada. E-mail: emijrp AT gmail DOT com Pre-doctoral student at the University of Cádiz (Spain) Projects: AVBOT <http://code.google.com/p/avbot/> | StatMediaWiki<http://statmediawiki.forja.rediris.es> | WikiEvidens <http://code.google.com/p/wikievidens/> | WikiPapers<http://wikipapers.referata.com> | WikiTeam <http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/> Personal website: https://sites.google.com/site/emijrp/

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