In my opinion, that is up to those countries :) If Russia prefers to use a different time zone (to take the most painful country) that would be fine with me too. But yes, it would be good to have a good overview of this. Maybe something to add as a table in the FAQ? Lodewijk 2012/8/24 Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod(a)mccme.ru>

Hi Tomasz, if every country chooses one time zone, for Russia it would be indeed logical to have Moscow time (which is the same as Saint Petersburg time), and they are one hour ahead of Ukraine and Belarus. (Kaliningrad time would be the same as Ukraine). I do not know how it would work with the US and with Canada, where there is no one preferred zone, but I completely agree with Lodewijk that it is up to them to decide - just at any location the beginning time should be the same as the closing time. Cheers Yaroslav On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:53:28 +0200, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote:

Yaroslav, there hasn't been to much discussion about this topic, so I went ahead and suggested my plan to you ;-)) But obviously it would be nice for the countries to decide by themselves when they want to turn on the UploadCampaigns and CentralNotice banners (though it will have to be communicated to us beforehand, as there aren't so many active Meta admins here). I would disagree about having the same time for starting and closing the contest. Our goal is to have as many pictures as possible -- in order to get as many new editors as possible -- and human beings have this strange habit of doing things at the latest possible moment. We've seen it last year, when -- as Romaine wrote in another thread recently -- about 25% of the total number of uploads came in on the last day. It would be a great loss if we disabled the campaign on, say, October 1 00:00 Eastern Daylight Time (this is the timezone for the US states of Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and the Canadian provinces of Ontario and Quebec), when there could be plenty of people from the other US timezones wanting to upload pictures /at the latest possible time/. Adding some three or so hours for people to use in order to be "fair" to the other countries is not really a big deal, but there is potentially much to loose (in number of pictures that wouldn't make it to the contest). -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]]

Hi Yaroslav, the problem we face here is that there are no technical means to use this scheme. Firstly, there is only one UploadCampaign for the US (same for Canada, the Netherlands, and Russia) - and secondly, the current CentralNotice and GeoNotice systems do not (truly) enable us to set up different campaigns for respective administrative divisions of a country (in this case, mainly the US and Canada). And just like you wrote, it would be a nightmare to track post-deadlines pictures: how would you tell if a user uploaded a picture from California or from New York? What would matter: the location of the object (based on geo-coordinates and GPS data, for example) or the real-life location of the user at the time of upload? ;-)) I believe that besides the countries you mentioned - Canada, France, the Netherlands, Russia and the US - also Mexico uses different time zones. (Any countries I missed?) I would love to hear from people from those countries what they think as to what should be done here. -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]]

On 24 August 2012 14:57, Osmar Valdebenito wrote: Hey Osmar - could you please clarify why you decided to change the time zone? Wikipedia tells me (<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Chile>) that in September, the continental Chile is using CLT, Chile Standard Time, which is UTC-4:00. With the solution you wrote about, you'll losing one precious hour! :-) Thanks, Tomasz

Time zones for the Netherlands wont be a problem. As far as I know the monuments are all based in the main land not in the island overseas. Besides that in all countries people from all over the world can participate. Mvg, Bas

Hi Andre, thanks for the suggestions; I'll make sure to have the checklist at the ready, and also to include the information about not disabling the campaigns and changing the banners in due time. Thanks again, your help is appreciated! -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]]

I think you meen opening at 2012-08-31T22:00:00 UTC (CEST time zone UTC+2) and closing at 2012-09-30T22:59:59 UTC (Canary Islands time zone UTC+1). Right? Vicenç