Legal Questions: From WM-IT people who organized this competition received an email indicating the legal questions surrounding the Italian legislation: known the doubt we will get in touch with the councill of Alghero and the council's attorney has assured us that the photographs of the monuments does not violate any law and that could be made freely.

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Just feq words (hopefully, more news will come): WMI actually thought about the possibility of having a WLM just for non-italians, but we need to be sure about by-lways and legal contraints. If foregneirs are able to make pictures of monuments, can they still release them in free license? Moreover, could Wikimedia Italy be sued for asking tourists to *break the law*? I don't need to remind you that WMI sill is on trial (in the person of our persident Frieda) and has been asked to paid *20 million euros* (yes, you're reading well). So we really don't want to aggravate our position. We are trying to contact both a lawyer and a member of the Ministry of Cultural Heritage to see what we can do. We'll update you as things proceed. Aubrey 2011/3/15 Jane Darnell<jane023(a)gmail.com> > Dear mailing list, > I have been a passive reader of this discussion because I was not > intending to upload pictures for a WLM Italy competition until I read > Mafoso's link: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Soprintendenza > What a strange and beautiful world we live in!! And how strangely does > that translate to Wiki Commons!  Would it be possible for the template > to be > adjusted to reflect whether the "Soprintendenza (government department > responsible for the environment, historical buildings, monuments and > other > treasures)" has waived the fees for usage on Wiki Commons? For big > money-buster attractions this may not be possible, but I feel certain > that > Wikimedians in Italy could use their network to gain permission for > the > smaller villages and sectors, especially since they have probably > never > received a dime from such (possible) revenues... That way all > participating > areas could be kept track of as the progress goes, and for those > specific > cases where the fees cannot be waived, then a complicated arrangement > such > as that by Mafoso could be used. > Just my 2c, > Jane023 > 2011/3/15 Marc Fontdevila<marc.fontdevila(a)gmail.com> >> Dear >> (excuse my poor english again, please) >> I've been thinking about the issue of The unfortunately legal >> administrative impossibility in Italy  that not allows to our >> partners of >> WM-it to participating in this wonderful initiative. >> >> As viquimedian I think we could do something active. That's why I >> throw >> this idea with the best of intentions >> (Frieda Please correct me if I wrong) >> According to the indicated at template Soprintendenza of commons >> (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Soprintendenza) >> understand that >> those who are not Italian citizens can upload our pictures of Italian >> monuments to commons without harming it. >> >> Based on this assumption I suggest that, with WM-it and the >> foundation on >> the forehead (and taking advantage of the synergies of WLM), to >> appeal to >> anyone who visits Italy to do it with the list of monuments of the >> site they >> visit and take pictures to upload it to commons and wm-it organize >> the >> contest anyway. >> In parallel we could give news of the issue and try to put pressure >> in >> order to facilitate contacts with WM-IT and public institutions to >> achieve a >> permission to use photos of Italian monuments freely. >> >> I am aware that this is a complicated task and carrying it out will >> need >> to invest significant resources in time and possibly money ... but we >> are >> Wikimedians: together we could try. >> >> Perhaps you could consider this idea in the next Berlin's >> Brainstroming >> >> Mafoso. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu