Почитав я цей діалог і мені стало дуже соромно, що я є
членом цього
оргкомітету...
2013/11/2 Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek(a)gmail.com>
Our regulation excludes members of the board of
Wikimedia Polska, as
well, as their family relatives and employees. Which means for example
that my doughter cannot win the Polish contest :-) Polish civil code
precisely defines the meaning ot the "family relative" - I guess in
other jursdictions similar definition can be found.
I guess in case of the global jury - as the pictures are pre-selected
by local juries, there is no need for similar regulation.
2013/11/1 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>rg>:
Hi Illia,
Thanks for your email. Family members of the jury members are
definitely a
tricky terrain. If your rules stated that family
members of jury members
cannot take part, I think it is totally valid to disqualify these
images.
So first of all: yes, of course national rules can be more elaborate
than
the international rules. This is quite common
actually - for example,
several chapter give out 'Special Awards' or take other national issues
in
consideration. Conflict of Interest is one of
these.
Secondly, what qualifies as a family member, is a cultural question -
this
is something you should probably consider in the
Ukrainian context. I
personally definitely would consider it a family member, but I'm not
very
Ukrainian. It becomes more tricky with nephews
etc.
Thirdly you ask if the organizing committee can overrule the jury - now
this
is a really tricky one. Again there is some
cultural background here
probably. I'm used to a situation where the jury is considered the
neutral
body to make final decisions regarding prizes,
and nobody would come up
with
an idea to overrule the jury, unless there are
legal reasons or rules
that
require that. But in another country, it might
very well be common to
let
the jury only be responsible for ranking, and
then the organizers make
the
formal decision. This is something that is
probably to be determined by
your
rules.
I hope this helps.
Best,
Lodewijk
2013/11/1 Ilya Korniyko <intracer(a)gmail.com>
>
> Hi, Ukrainian organizing committe has trouble with one winner.
>
> In 2012 the chapter board set rules for Ukrainian part of the
competition,
> which contains a point that organizing
committe members, jury and their
> family members (I don't know how to translate precisely, and the
correct
> word matters here) cannot take part in the
competition. According to
our
> rules places are determined by jury but
organizing committee can
disqualify
> works.
>
> This year we found out only after final jury round that second place is
> authored by one of jury member's father an his wife. While we have no
direct
> objections that this choice was unfair or
biased, we thougth that it
would
> be difficult to understand by other people
and may harm the contest
> reputation. We decided not give the prize from the chapter but to
present
> this photo among 10 best to international
competition and say that it
was
> seconf by jury decision but authors were not
given prizes due to
violation
> of the rules as the organizing committe
decided.
>
> Now the authors of this photo ask us questions
>
> 1) There is no prohibition in the international rules for jury members'
> family. Does our chapter have a right to add additional criterias?
> 2) Can a father be qualified as a family member? Is this a good
criteria?
> 3) Is this ok for organizing committee to
override jury decision in
this
case?
Oranizing committe, the winner and jury member in question are in copy.
Thank you,
Illia
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