Would anyone be able to help me track down examples of articles that cover two or more things on the same page? I'm trying to work out why we have articles that include "tsunami" in the titles, when there are many events throughout history that caused tsunamis that don't include that in the title. I tried searching for "and" in the title and found these examples: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2010_Sumatra_earthquake_and_tsunami http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/869_Sanriku_earthquake_and_tsunami But there are many other examples of tsunamis not "attached" to the event that caused them. Most are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_tsunamis Articles on some of the causative events of the tsunami listed in that article are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700_Cascadia_earthquake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansei_Great_Earthquakes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1908_Messina_earthquake There are also some tsunami with their own articles and none on the cause: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1771_Great_Yaeyama_Tsunami http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Severo-Kurilsk_tsunami Ones caused by landslides are arguably correctly given their own article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Lituya_Bay_megatsunami However, it seems a bit of a mess at the moment. There are other disasters that take the form of causative event followed by an effect that causes the most destruction. The two examples I've seen used are Hurricane Katrina, where the storm surge and flooding caused most of the damage (though almost any hurricane that size that hits land will cause a storm surge and flooding) and the firestorm that can take hold after some earthquakes (notably the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake). On other words, tsunami are not something that occur by themselves. They are caused by something, and I'm not sure that the currently evolving practice of tacking tsunami onto the end of the title of articles about the causative event is the right approach. It seems to be a recent approach, and I'm not entirely sure where the best place is to discuss this, as individual renaming discussions don't seem the best place to get an overview of the whole effect. Where is the best place to discuss naming conventions if no specific guidance exists? Would it be the talk page of the 'Article titles' policy, or would a more specific place (the 'events' naming guideline) be better? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28events%29 Carcharoth _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l