G'day Guy, I'm not going to make any edits tonight, but FWIW Lima's statements in the thread above your RfC notice (about the Pope's view on tradition not being "a box of dead things", about traditionalists not being allowed to decide who can and cannot be considered a "traditional Catholic", and so on) pretty much accords with my own view. However, my personal views on my faith could not be regarded as either traditional or traditionalist, and I suspect anyone so set in his ways that he is willing to disregard the views of several Popes would doubtless care very little for an opinion from little ol' modernist me. -- Mark Gallagher "What? I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!" - Danger Mouse -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 4/05/2006