From: wikien-l-bounces(a)Wikipedia.org
[mailto:wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of SCZenz
On 1/7/06, Peter Mackay
<peter.mackay(a)bigpond.com> wrote:
> From: wikien-l-bounces(a)Wikipedia.org
> [mailto:wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of SCZenz
>
> The userspace is *for* building the encyclopedia, and we can (and
> do) edit userpages that are clearly for another purpose.
> People are allowed quite a bit of leeway at current, but
it is not
a right
or a good thing for that leeway to expand.
Wikipedia is not (primarily) an experiment in evolving online
communities, and it is certainly not a webhosting service.
I think the community role is important, and surely it is up to the
community as to how the userspace evolves. Granted, the
production of
an encyclopaedia is the focus, but WP is run by
consensus
as few other
internet communities are, and in many ways it is
not a matter of
dictating how things will happen so much as hanging on for
the ride and watching
what happens!
By and large userland seems to be a relatively tranquil
nation, and I
make no doubt that even the current user template
row will find its
own happy compromise soon enough. My appreciation of the WP
community
is that it is one that values freedom and
"leeway" very highly, but
co-operation in the shared goal is valued higher still.
Um, I am indeed opposed to ticking positive contributors off,
and so I don't like mass deletions of harmless userboxes.
Making people happy is good, because it helps the project.
But Wikipedia is only run by consensus to a certain point.
Users cannot decide, by consensus, to devote any page
anywhere on Wikipedia to *anything* that hurts the encyclopedia.
We've had this discussion before, when neo-Nazis threatened to mobilise and
take WP over. Of course it came to nothing, but Jimbo indicated that if it
came to gaming consensus by stacking the numbers, then the rules would be
changed to defeat the "putsch".
But I doubt it would get that far. As I say, the community values
co-operation in the shared goal higher than any other activity and internal
threats seem to be dealt with adequately. Not quickly, but effectively.
Peter (Skyring)