From: WJhonson(a)aol.com To: wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008 6:41:10 AM GMT +10:00 Brisbane Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] The dangers of not citing Wikipedia Interesting. As to the point about secondary citation, it is standard practice in classes that teach about research and writing to cover how to do secondary citation. For example look at _http://writing2.richmond.edu/writing/wweb/apadocu.html_ (http://writing2.richmond.edu/writing/wweb/apadocu.html) The way we should approach citing a reference *through* someone else's citation is "so and so as cited in such and such" It's really a matter of courtesy that we cite *in some way* the actual source which we actually consulted. Of course that isn't the issue here. It would appear, reading-between-the-lines, that exact quotes or paraphrases were lifted from the Wikipedia article without either en-quoting, or acknowledging the source whatsoever. Or perhaps merely acknowledging it by way of a simple bibliography, which really isn't sufficient if you are quoting. Will Johnson

Interesting. As to the point about secondary citation, it is standard practice in classes that teach about research and writing to cover how to do secondary citation. For example look at _http://writing2.richmond.edu/writing/wweb/apadocu.html_ (http://writing2.richmond.edu/writing/wweb/apadocu.html) The way we should approach citing a reference *through* someone else's citation is "so and so as cited in such and such" It's really a matter of courtesy that we cite *in some way* the actual source which we actually consulted. Of course that isn't the issue here. It would appear, reading-between-the-lines, that exact quotes or paraphrases were lifted from the Wikipedia article without either en-quoting, or acknowledging the source whatsoever. Or perhaps merely acknowledging it by way of a simple bibliography, which really isn't sufficient if you are quoting. Will Johnson **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000… ) _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l