On 2/10/07, Guettarda <guettarda(a)gmail.com> wrote: Agreed, automatic admins, or granting it people with fewer than 1000s of productive edits isn't the solution. However, the issue of access to copyvios increases with the number of admins. In my opinion this isnt solved with less admins, but by expunging copyvios completely or further restricting access to them. In this, I am more thinking about copies of articles from other encyclopedias, as opposed to the snippets taken from a website. These copyvios are of limited usefulness to admins after a few days and should be inaccessible, both in the article history and the deletion log; instead a boilerplate page should alert the reader that the version they have requested is a copyvio and provide the details, such as source, contributors name, etc. All access to these copyright violations after it has been removed should be restricted to case by case needs. I expect that this would require an "Request for Expunction" process, which amounts to more bureaucracy, but if its creation allows for more admins, the net effect is fewer backlogs. Is something like this possible with the current MediaWiki and dump creation software? -- John