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David Gerard

12 Sep 2007 12 Sep '07

10:14 p.m.

Have we worked out what the 2 millionth article actually was? Lots of people seem to think it's [[El Hormiguero]], but then I heard it might not be and people were combing logs. BTW, you really must see this video of [[oobleck]] in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2XQ97XHjVw (The network's done a deal with YouTube, so this is an entirely ethical copy.) - d.

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Anirudh

13 Sep 13 Sep

12:30 p.m.

David "Ethical" Gerard. Someone told me [[User:Mailer diablo]] was the one who got the 1, 999, 999th article? Is that piece of information correct? --Anirudh On 9/13/07, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Have we worked out what the 2 millionth article actually was? Lots of people seem to think it's [[El Hormiguero]], but then I heard it might not be and people were combing logs. BTW, you really must see this video of [[oobleck]] in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2XQ97XHjVw (The network's done a deal with YouTube, so this is an entirely ethical copy.) - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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David Gerard

12:32 p.m.

On 13/09/2007, Anirudh <anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Someone told me [[User:Mailer diablo]] was the one who got the 1, 999, 999th article? Is that piece of information correct?

I've no idea. I haven't been keeping track of the details of the matter. - d.

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Casey Brown

11:04 p.m.

Sandy published the press release online today: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Reaches_2_Million_Articles. On 9/12/07, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Have we worked out what the 2 millionth article actually was? Lots of people seem to think it's [[El Hormiguero]], but then I heard it might not be and people were combing logs. BTW, you really must see this video of [[oobleck]] in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2XQ97XHjVw (The network's done a deal with YouTube, so this is an entirely ethical copy.) - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

-- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost.

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geni

14 Sep 14 Sep

12:35 a.m.

On 13/09/2007, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Sandy published the press release online today: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Reaches_2_Million_Articles.

Is that based on server logs? going by the data we have it apears fairly clear that El Hormiguero wasn't the 2 million. -- geni

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David Gerard

12:40 a.m.

On 13/09/2007, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 13/09/2007, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Sandy published the press release online today: > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Reaches_2_Million_Articles.

Is that based on server logs? going by the data we have it apears fairly clear that El Hormiguero wasn't the 2 million.

Yes, but where is this data? - d.

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geni

12:46 a.m.

On 13/09/2007, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 13/09/2007, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 13/09/2007, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Sandy published the press release online today: > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Reaches_2_Million_Articles.

Is that based on server logs? going by the data we have it apears fairly clear that El Hormiguero wasn't the 2 million.

Yes, but where is this data? - d.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggesti… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ST47/2E6 -- geni

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Charlotte Webb

10:42 p.m.

On 9/13/07, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 13/09/2007, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Sandy published the press release online today: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Reaches_2_Million_Articles.

Is that based on server logs? going by the data we have it apears fairly clear that El Hormiguero wasn't the 2 million.

Surely [[Special:Statistics]] is out-of-date by the time one's browser finishes loading it, but by how much? Several seconds, minutes, an hour? Wouldn't the only reliable way to prove this be to do something like this: 1. count the number of article creations 2. then subtract the number of main space deletions 3. then add undeletions (but only those which follow a deletion rather than a partial undeletion) 4. then add the number of net page moves *into* article space (which will probably be a negative number). 5. subtract the number of articles edited to redirects (merged). 6. add the number of redirects edited into articles (unmerged). 7. then subtract the number of articles where *all revisions* were silently "oversight"-ed. (oh shit!) 8. any other arithmetic I forgot about. Counting upwards from the previous database dump, I guess... —C.W.

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Charlotte Webb

10:52 p.m.

On 9/14/07, Charlotte Webb <charlottethewebb(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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HAHAHAHA I took a closer look at this. "In the end, it was picked by consensus in irc the best article created around the two million timeframe" http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/News… This, of course, from the user who wrote the article and while simultaneously running some kind of bot to count page creations (and possibly to submit [[El Hormiguero]] at what it calculated to be the most opportune moment?). The mind reels. —C.W.

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Ray Saintonge

11:36 p.m.

Charlotte Webb wrote:

HAHAHAHA I took a closer look at this. "In the end, it was picked by consensus in irc the best article created around the two million timeframe" http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/News… This, of course, from the user who wrote the article and while simultaneously running some kind of bot to count page creations (and possibly to submit [[El Hormiguero]] at what it calculated to be the most opportune moment?). The mind reels.

I'm sure the process was at least as accurate as the algorithm used by McDonalds to honour the purchaser of its 2 billionth hamburger. Ec

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George Herbert

15 Sep 15 Sep

12:18 a.m.

On 9/14/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote:

Charlotte Webb wrote:

HAHAHAHA I took a closer look at this. "In the end, it was picked by consensus in irc the best article created around the two million timeframe" http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/News… This, of course, from the user who wrote the article and while simultaneously running some kind of bot to count page creations (and possibly to submit [[El Hormiguero]] at what it calculated to be the most opportune moment?). The mind reels.

I'm sure the process was at least as accurate as the algorithm used by McDonalds to honour the purchaser of its 2 billionth hamburger. Ec

A solid endorsement if I ever... looked at it on the menu, and found another place to eat. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com

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Thomas Dalton

12:33 a.m.

I'm sure the process was at least as accurate as the algorithm used by McDonalds to honour the purchaser of its 2 billionth hamburger.

And the 6 billionth person, and the first person born in the new millennium, and various other meaningless choices to represent a purely symbolic moment. It really doesn't matter. Credit to Zzxc for securing himself the honour so smoothly.

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Brock Weller

1:23 a.m.

I couldn't agree more. Part of me feels like i should be upset for someone to "steal", for lack of a better word, the honor like this, i'm just awestruck by how much effort went into this, the fact that it worked, and that someone bothered to attempt it at all. Well done, well done zz-whoever, well done. On 9/14/07, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sure the process was at least as accurate as the algorithm used by McDonalds to honour the purchaser of its 2 billionth hamburger.

And the 6 billionth person, and the first person born in the new millennium, and various other meaningless choices to represent a purely symbolic moment. It really doesn't matter. Credit to Zzxc for securing himself the honour so smoothly. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Anirudh
Brock Weller
Casey Brown
Charlotte Webb
David Gerard
geni
George Herbert
Ray Saintonge
Thomas Dalton