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Alex Peek

16 Apr 2013 16 Apr '13

5:50 p.m.

I am working on a project to duplicate a standardized economic report for all 196 countries. Here is the United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States. Here is China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China Here is Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan Is there anybody who is willing to add more countries to the list and help edit existing country reports? I am contacting professors around the world in order to complete every country. I think the collaborative product would be a great educational resource to the public. The official project page is here with the list of other country reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map#Proposal Alex

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Magnus Manske

17 Apr 17 Apr

10:20 a.m.

Why not wait until Wikidata has a "number" type, then generate these for all countries with a bot? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Alex Peek <alexpeek1(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I am working on a project to duplicate a standardized economic report for all 196 countries. Here is the United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States . Here is China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China Here is Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan Is there anybody who is willing to add more countries to the list and help edit existing country reports? I am contacting professors around the world in order to complete every country. I think the collaborative product would be a great educational resource to the public. The official project page is here with the list of other country reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map#Proposal Alex _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Alex Peek

12:02 p.m.

In my opinion, Wikidata and the Global Economic Map would complimentary sister projects. The Global Economic Map provides a standardized format to present economic information. Wikidata will help collect the data, but the Global Economic Map is the best way to present economic data. It's similar to Wikispecies in this regard. There should be a separate Wiki project to map out economic information in the world. Does this make senses? Alex On 17 April 2013 03:20, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

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Why not wait until Wikidata has a "number" type, then generate these for all countries with a bot? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Alex Peek <alexpeek1(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I am working on a project to duplicate a standardized economic report for all 196 countries. Here is the United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

. Here is China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_China Here is Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_Japan Is there anybody who is willing to add more countries to the list and

help

edit existing country reports? I am contacting professors around the

world

in order to complete every country. I think the collaborative product

would

be a great educational resource to the public. The official project page is here with the list of other country reports: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map#Proposal Alex _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Magnus Manske

12:56 p.m.

If all it does (and that would still be a lot!) is to aggregate and format data from machine-readable sources like Wikidata, I don't see the point for a project - some code can do that on its own just fine. Now, the output needs to be designed, and the numbers need to be kept up-to-date; at least the former will require humans at the wheel. What else would have to be done by humans? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Alex Peek <alexpeek1(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Why not wait until Wikidata has a "number" type, then generate these for all countries with a bot? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Alex Peek <alexpeek1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am working on a project to duplicate a standardized economic report

for

all 196 countries. Here is the United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

help

edit existing country reports? I am contacting professors around the

world

in order to complete every country. I think the collaborative product

would > be a great educational resource to the public. > > The official project page is here with the list of other country

reports:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Economic_Map#Proposal Alex _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Alex Peek

3:05 p.m.

Hopefully coding will help the project retrieve for more data. Humans will be important to retrieve data from hard to find places (government publications, Google, etc.). I imagine that both humans and bots will help edit the project. The point of the project is to present economic information in a way that is understandable to average human being. The project is designed to be educational and simple. Economists can help determine better ways to present the information too. The economy is such an important part of our society and I believe it deserves it's own wiki project. What do you mean by the 'output' needs to be designed? On 17 April 2013 05:56, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

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In my opinion, Wikidata and the Global Economic Map would complimentary sister projects. The Global Economic Map provides a standardized format

present economic information. Wikidata will help collect the data, but

the

Global Economic Map is the best way to present economic data. It's

similar

to Wikispecies in this regard. There should be a separate Wiki project to map out economic information in the world. Does this make senses? Alex On 17 April 2013 03:20, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>

wrote:

> Why not wait until Wikidata has a "number" type, then generate these

for

> all countries with a bot? > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Alex Peek <alexpeek1(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> I am working on a project to duplicate a standardized economic report

for

all 196 countries. Here is the United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

help

edit existing country reports? I am contacting professors around the

world

in order to complete every country. I think the collaborative product

would > be a great educational resource to the public. > > The official project page is here with the list of other country

reports:

Lydia Pintscher

3:07 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Alex Peek <alexpeek1(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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What do you mean by the 'output' needs to be designed?

I think he means something like http://toolserver.org/~magnus/ts2/reasonator/?q=Q1339 which gets its data from http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1339. Something similar can be done for what you want to do very likely. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

Alex Peek

4:05 p.m.

Thank you Lydia, the tool server is interesting. My main objection to the Global Economic Map being included in Wikidata is because Wikidata is designed to support other Wikimedia projects. The Global Economic Map has a simple and easy to understand format that I believe would be lost if it were added into Wikidata. Education is the top priority. Am I making sense? On 17 April 2013 08:07, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de>wrote;wrote:

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On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Alex Peek <alexpeek1(a)gmail.com> wrote:

What do you mean by the 'output' needs to be designed?

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