Bryan Derksen bryan.derksen at shaw.ca Sat Dec 1 01:29:44 UTC 2007 I'm an example of someone who had no idea SlimVirgin was connected to this until much later on and yet had his confidence shaken from the get-go. Even now I think my reaction would be little different if none of the names of the players involved had turned out to be familiar. ------------------- For the record, and I hope for the last time, I am *not* involved in this. I didn't read Durova's links about !! when she posted them to the cyberstalking list. I saw no block proposal. I didn't comment in the thread. I didn't tacitly or explicitly approve of a block. I didn't know about it until after the fact. And I've never defended it. Apart from that, it's probably all my fault. Sarah