There are three problems to relying on AfD alone
1. the load on AfD is everything has to come there because there are
no clear guidelines for people trying to write articles in good faith
2. the impossibility of holding a rational discussion on AfD without
some rules to refer to in the argument--it all becomes a matter of
whether ILIKEIT.
3. lack of consistence (and we deal with this by actually saying we
dont need to be consistent, the tell-tell sign of a immature system
that has defined neither its practices or its principles.)
On 11/22/07, charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com
<charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
"David Goodman" wrote
To say all food served should be edible is
begging the question. Food
by definition is things suitable to be eaten. To say something needs
to be verifiable without saying what it means is not much help in
practice. Just like "notable" or "encyclopedic"
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:47:33 -0800, "jossi
fresco"
<jossif(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I spy a dangerous fallacy. It may be that you can't _define_
Verifiability without defining "reliable source". But we can certainly
_agree_ to Veriability without defining "reliable source". And in fact
we have.
(One can agree that food served in a restaurant should be edible,
without defining "edible".)
My point entirely, though. We have a "question begging" culture.
"Notability" begs the question "noted by whom?". We cope.
The other extreme is a wikilawyering culture. The correct answer to the "you
haven't defined your terms" is: cui bono? Does making things more black-and-white
in an area help the project, or (as here) help pettifogging editors who are going to raise
source criticism to such an art that only access to a huge academic library will allow
people to contribute? "Duck tests" for verifiability make a lot of sense,
actually.
What we do is to make operational decisions, such as allowing AfD to cut through
notability imponderables. This is for the best.
Charles
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