New subject: Short 3RR-like blocks for incivility

16 Feb 2009

In a message dated 2/15/2009 7:36:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
scream(a)datascreamer.com writes:

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WJhonson(a)aol.com wrote:
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  Indefinite blocks (until the  editor bows to random
authority) for 
 "incivility" are  overboard.
 Esp. in light of the fact that the vast majority of admins  take no time to 
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  determine the cause of the incivility.
  Many cases of "incivility" are in-my-mind completely justified.
  Indefinite blocks do nothing but inflame the situation.

 Will  Johnson

 In a message dated 2/15/2009  11:50:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
 scream(a)datascreamer.com  writes:

   No, I don't think  so.  Short  3RR
blocks for incivility would be punitive
 since the logic   would be "For incivility you get a 24H block as
 punishment".  I  would  posit that a warning to the editor would suffice,
 then  based on the  asshattedness of the editor, a preventative block.
  Unblock as soon as they  assert that they will not repeat the offense.  

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 Jon -----------

Jon my response was to the idea that a person would be blocked until they  
agreed that "they will not repeat the offense".
If it's a situation was a person was provoked and I'm sure all of us who've  
been around a while have situations where people are provoked, then they may  
feel like Wikipedia is just a mob gang out to "get" them.  I really don't  
like the idea of creating more long-term vandals over minor offenses.

In the case where a person is a problematic, repeat offender, has been  
warned several times by uninvolved admins, than a block "until you stop being so  
offensive" might be in order.

In the case where a person is mostly productive *until that fateful day*  
where they decide to add a comma to the "Palestinian rights" article (or  
whatever) and get drawn into a heated battle where they are provoked to the  point of 
exploding, I wouldn't advocate a project position like this.  In  conflict 
situations almost anything can be taken as "incivil" and creating a  policy like

this would only be used to beat up on opponents.  In my  view.

Will Johnson

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