This proposal has a lot of merit, and gets us out
of a tricky situation.
-Cberlet
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Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Category:Soviet spies
My recommendation: [[Category:Alleged Soviet spies]] (serious
allegations only, thankyouverymuch), and [[Category:Convicted
Soviet spies]]. In both cases we avoid having to make a value
judgment as to the truth of said espionage accusation by
making it into a category bestowed by other people. (That is,
whether the Rosenbergs were Soviet spies is still disputed by
some, but none would dispute that they were convicted as such).
FF
On 11/7/05, Sam Korn <smoddy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I suggest you bring this up on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CFD
I agree that the change needs to be made. Perhaps there can be a
second category for confirmed Soviet spies.
Sam
On 11/7/05, Chip Berlet <c.berlet(a)publiceye.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Wikipedia entry "Category:Soviet spies" is a magnet for a
> defamation lawsuit. Many of the people in the list were never
> indicted, and some denied the charge in public. At least
one person
> is still alive: "Harry Magdoff".
>
> At best, this should be renamed to something like:
"Category:Accused
> Soviet spies" .
>
> I freely confess I have a vested interest in this matter,
currently
> well into the second month of mdiation with
Nobs01on a related
> matter without a single compromise paragraph having been written:
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Cberle
> t_and_Nobs01/Workshop
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Cberle
> t_and_Nobs01
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Cberle
> t_and_Nobs01/A3
>
> But since this mediation seems to be dragging on for months, I
> though that I would mention this now, rather than wait for the
> mediation to hit the year 2006.
>
> Some folks here on this list should consider the possible
defmation
> issue very seriously. I messed up my first
attempt to
deal with this
> on Wiki. I meant to suggest a name change or
deletion, but
> misunderstood the process.
>
> I have prevailed after being sued for defamation twice,
but it cost
> tens of thousands of dollars just to get a
judge to toss
me out of
> the case.
>
> Cberlet
>
>
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