On Mar 29, 2015, at 8:01 AM, wikien-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send WikiEN-l mailing list submissions to wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikien-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikien-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of WikiEN-l digest..." Please do NOT hit "reply" to this digest without trimming the quoted section to only the message you are replying to! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Privacy Study Looking for Volunteers (James Alexander) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 05:38:10 -0700 From: James Alexander <jalexander(a)wikimedia.org> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Privacy Study Looking for Volunteers Message-ID: <CAOcBxPNL6Q2sXujPkuADBXyNbdZNoyao2sTehTsjsgtKrtFLjQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The idea of the IP being more private in the history/ public logs (for example a unique hash so that you know it's "an IP" but not where/what IP" ) is one that I know has been discussed and is desired by a good number within the foundation including within legal. I'll try to look for the phabricator task about it tomorrow. I think that's something that is likely to happen, it isn't easy though and requires a fair number of resources to be pointed at it to get it done so it's a question of priorities and convincing those who decide those things that it should be higher. I believe it's something, privacy wise, that legal would really like. I think it is unlikely in the short to medium term, however, to get rid of the IPs in the backend (in server logs and in the checkuser system for example) because the replacements just aren't there. I've spent a good amount of time thinking of a way to make the checkuser system as usable as necessary without revealing IPs for example (including a consultant who looked a lot but didn't really come up with anything we didn't know already). I think it's doable, but it would be a very difficult and long design process and I think it's unlikely in the near future. James Alexander Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l End of WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 7 ****************************************