On 1/20/06, Jonathan <dzonatas(a)dzonux.net> wrote:
In response to an earlier message I sent,
"Cleared as filed" and me,
Dzonatas, have discussed the issue somewhat. I've been unblocked early.
There is a concern I still have that isn't directed at "Cleared as filed."
I wrote the previous mail in haste, obviously. I only had a couple
minutes to spare and wanted to take advantage of time that the block
started.
The 3RR policy is valid. By pragmatic review, not every admin blocks
under the same conditions. This gives the effect of favoritism, either
personal or political.
No one ever seriously accused me of that back when I inforced the 3RR.
I have many thought over many ideas in prevention, but
I'll give just
one that is do-able.
If a user is under blocked under 3RR, allow a button to appear under the
users page that directs the user to the policy. The button questions
the user to agree to stay in accordance with policy and not edit the
specific page for 24 hours. If the user agrees and presses the button,
the block is undone. This allows the user to continue to edit other
pages. If the user presses the button and resumes to edit the specific
page, the block is reinstated for a duration longer than 24 hours.
I'm thinking no. A 24 hour block basicaly foreces the editor to sleep
before they can edit again.
In the incidence with "Cleared as filed", I
felt I was blocked
inappropriately. Other users now use such block as means for character
assassination. The above idea could allow an user to continue to talk on
the discussion page, which would show that the 3RR is not punitive by
default and prevent character assassination.
I've blocked everyone from anons to arbcom memebers under the 3RR. I
don't think anyone has ever been able to use it for character
assassination.
In the same incidence, another user continued to show
disruption by the
use of tags to delete images that I have installed. The sources and
copyright status of the images were obvious enough by guidelines;
however, the user wanted to press the technicality of it. This user
reported the block for which "Cleared as filed" instated. It would seem
possible by this example that a user is able to game the system, get a
user blocked, and add content under speedy deletion. This is why I sent
the message in haste to report "Cleared as filed", as it would help make
notice to not be so hasty to install a block and allow discussion.
Obviously, not every admin has lots of time to investigate and often
blocks on "the wrong version." This update would allow an admin to
install a block and let the user to decide to unblock early if they
agree to adhere to temporary terms, which is simply to not edit the
specific article for a day. This continues to encourage discussion.
Respectfully,
Jonathan
The rule doesn't care like things such as the wrong version. The whole
point is thart you make no judement about who was right and who was
wrong.
--
geni