On 9/27/07, Brock Weller <brock.weller(a)gmail.com> wrote: [snip] It isn't against the rules to use open proxies with English Wikipedia, nor even against them to edit from open proxies. Rather, the standing and well justified practice is to block them when we find them because they are used for trouble. The distinction is subtle but important. If there existed an open proxy which was an attractive tool for abuse we wouldn't block it. No such beast exists yet, but they are possible. For example, http://www.lunkwill.org/src/nym/Readme proposes a system which would allow us to give people tokens whenever they donate over a threshold amount to us or perhaps other participating non-profits. The token could be used to enable tor editing from a single account. This way creating vandal accounts would cost $25 (or whatever) each. Probably a reasonable enough solution, and the pseudoanomity of the user is strongly preserved. Or another example, http://petworkshop.org/2007/papers/PET2007_preproc_Nymble.pdf uses many of the same cryptographic constructs as above but creates a system where we could block IPs without ever being able to tell exactly what they were. Now that armedblowfish is rate limited perhaps he'll have some time to work on developing the software needed to make one these into reasonable options. If it's that off-topic then don't reply on list. ;) _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

If there existed an open proxy which was an attractive tool for abuse we wouldn't block it. No such beast exists yet, but they are possible. For example, http://www.lunkwill.org/src/nym/Readme proposes a system which would allow us to give people tokens whenever they donate over a threshold amount to us or perhaps other participating non-profits. The token could be used to enable tor editing from a single account. This way creating vandal accounts would cost $25 (or whatever) each. Probably a reasonable enough solution, and the pseudoanomity of the user is strongly preserved.

Now that armedblowfish is rate limited perhaps he'll have some time to work on developing the software needed to make one these into reasonable options.