Any accusee has the right to be heard for defense in the real world.
This takes time. In France, it can take years. 2 weeks is a minimum :-)
When there is very strong suspicion of crime, he can be maintained in
jail before the trial actually occur.
Rick a écrit:
That's ridiculous. TWO WEEKS? When a logged-in
user is causing chaos
and an attempt by anyone to do something about it will lead to THEIR
being banned or having their sysop privileges taken away? That is NOT
hasty, that's molasses slow. I see no reason why anything more than
three days is necessary.
RickK
Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)ctelco.net> wrote:
I think the way you hold power in your own hands it that you, who are in
contact with the problem, can initiate the conflict resolution
procedure,
beginning with talking to the party, asking for mediation, then
arbitration.
The arbitration committee (who if they are careful, are not in
contact with
the situation, at least not slugging it out) can if a case comes to us,
rather rapidly decide a matter and prescribe a remedy. (A week or two is
very rapid indeed in this context, even hasty).
Fred Bauder, member of the arbitration committee
From: Anthere
Reply-To: anthere8(a)yahoo.com, English Wikipedia
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:43:36 +0100
To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
Subject: [W ikiEN-l] Re: Plautus
Martin Harper a écrit:
Arno M wrote:
When will something be done?
Brian Corr wrote:
Could someone give an update on a timeline for
action?
Something will be done about Plautus when you do something about
Plautus. The timeline for action on Plautus is roughly:
1) You decide to act.
2) You act.
I liked your answer
But...I have another question
Some people think that something should be done about Lir.
Question they ask : When will something be done ?
Answer they received from UserA :
* There is no problem with user Lir. So, you have no problem
====> Answer of the type : your opinion is irrelevant
Answer they received from UserB :
* We are busy thinking about the matter. Please be patient, do not do
anything, we'll fix the problem for you, that is our job
====> Answer of the type : please, hold on, you are not in charge, we
are in charge. Go back to your own business
---------
Still, nothing happen
---------
What they do
1) They decide to act.
2) They act.
Answer they received from UserC
* Your action was incorrect. You are out of the game. Next time,
refer
to suggestion of UserB instead of trying to
decide and act by
yourself.
-------
Comment from Anthere
When general guidelines are inconsistant, and that half of people say
''you are in charge, take charge'' and the half say ''do not do
anything, those who have responsa bility here will take care of the
matter for you'', is there proper consistancy in our message ?
The vaccum cleaner hole is more than a hole.
People just do not know, whether they should refer to a group of user
from now on to fix their problems
Or if they should manage to deal with problems themselves
-------
So, yes, that is a good answer, but at least people from the
arbitration
committee should be consistant in their answer,
to those of us
who are
wondering what action power we still hold. At
least, to know whether
your answer, Martin, is the correct one, or the incorrect one.
(I can have my own answer, but I suppose I would be the one to find
myself in front of arbitration if I applied it, so will I dare ?)
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