On 24/02/2008, WJhonson(a)aol.com <WJhonson(a)aol.com> wrote:
In a message dated 2/24/2008 12:17:23 A.M. Pacific
Standard Time,
geniice(a)gmail.com writes:
How exactly would you defend that under the doctrine of fair use? I
really can't see a way to do it.>>
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That might be because you don't have a fair grasp of what the doctrine
states.
I have a reasonable understanding (under US law anyway there isn't
enough Israeli case law yet ). But still if you think otherwise lets
see your case.
Our copyright policy was for the most part put
together by people who
have at least a passing knowledge of copyright law. So fair you have
failed to show that you do.>>
This is a fallacy. The copyright policy, like all others, was put together
by us all.
Oh good then you will stop trying to fight it yes?
The copyright policy does not restrict fair use
photographs
except as far as copyright law does as well.
[[WP:EDP]] says otherwise.
The removal of all fair use photographs does
nothing useful for the
project.
The project is to make a free encyclopedia.>>
Fair Use can be used inside a free project. Essentially you are repeating
what I've already been saying. No fair use photographs are being allowed, at
all. None. All fair use photographs are being removed, because certain
people feel that any fair use photographs cannot be used within a free
encyclopedia.
Last I checked en.wikipedia contained about 200K "fair use"
images .
It does however harm it, by removing useful
illustrations from articles
that could use them,
So far for your chosen example this does not appear to be true.>>>
Yes it's true in that the article would then have no photograph of Patti
Smith at all.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cgin03/1013970432/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daigooliva/288037254/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bakameh/531314040/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daigooliva/288037257/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fabiovenni/503167413/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daigooliva/288035117/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daigooliva/288035112/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Patti_Smith_and_Bono_at_the_Madison_Squa…
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Patti_Smith
How many photos do you want?
That is not user-friendly. In general we support the
addition of
photographs to enhance the value of the project.
We do not however support weak or unnecessary fair use.
And I have never protested *when* a free use
photograph is put into an
article. The problem is not however this. But it is when a bot removes all fair
use photographs and there *are* no free use photographs.
See above
Please address the
problem which actually exists, instead of one which does not.
The problem of replaceable fair use images removing the incentive to
find and upload free stuff? I think we have made rather a large dent
in that problem.
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geni