Er, some difficulties with terms here...
On Jul 6, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Cobb wrote:
Puppy wrote:
Same as always. Afd, userfy, welcome messages,
and
lots of links and explanations of and to WP:V, WP:NPOV,
and WP:NOR. -kc-
Weeks of AFDs and sockspuppets/newbies, followed by
DRVs. full of socks/newbies, followed by idiot admins
undeleting the articles and putting them on DRV for
yet more weeks of socks/newbie infested discussions
and stupid editors who haven't read the policies etc etc
etc etc.
Yet... of course... vandalism doesn't work on a WIki
because it's as easy to fix as it was to vandalise in first
place... isn't it?
Well, since *nothing* you mentioned or implied above was
"vandalism",
yes. Vandalism refers to intentional, bad faith edits - newbies ain't
that. Ignorant or busy editors ain't that. Idiot admins ain't even
that. What all of those are is misguided people. Misguided people
make trouble everywhere, and have since time began, and will until a
while after the heat death of the universe. The answer to them is the
same as always - lots and lots of tiresome, irriating, frustrating
discussion. Sorry.
Wasn't that the Wikipedia war-cry once?
And,
for "vandalism", it still is. For misguided people - it has
always been discussion until either the misguided people change their
minds or enough other people get fed up, then more or less forceful
requests to leave.
Did you have some mistaken idea it was otherwise?
Jesse Weinstein