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Mathias Schindler

17 Apr 2006 17 Apr '06

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Rob

17 Apr 17 Apr

7:43 a.m.

New subject: Finally, we are exposed. Wikipedia is a CIA project. Or something like that

So how do we sign up for some of that CIA-NSA money from the "Absurd Wikipedia Budget"? On 4/17/06, Mathias Schindler <neubau(a)presroi.de> wrote:

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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/msg/9f1da2e6d4ad21f3?… Wikipedia and the CIA - How US Intelligence Can Embed in Wikipedia, Plant Propaganda, Delete Facts, Deceive and Attack US Citizens Wikipedia An Ultimate Trojan Horse for CIA and US Government on the Internet The text actually made my day. Mathias _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Mathias Schindler

7:47 a.m.

Rob wrote:

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So how do we sign up for some of that CIA-NSA money from the "Absurd Wikipedia Budget"?

I would rather put it into this question: How to we get the CIA/NSA/(don't forget DARPA and Mossad!) to increase their funding? Mathias

Erik Moeller

9:08 a.m.

New subject: Finally, we are exposed. Wikipedia is a CIA project. Or something like that

On 4/17/06, Mathias Schindler <neubau(a)presroi.de> wrote:

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Wikipedia and the CIA - How US Intelligence Can Embed in Wikipedia, Plant Propaganda, Delete Facts, Deceive and Attack US Citizens

Ben Lowe

1:41 p.m.

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Yeah, it's only a matter of time before they discover those black-ops speedy deletions we were making in [[Category:Cambodia]] while we claimed we were trying to get [[Vietnam]] up to featured-article status. On 4/17/06, Erik Moeller <eloquence(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4/17/06, Mathias Schindler <neubau(a)presroi.de> wrote:

Wikipedia and the CIA - How US Intelligence Can Embed in Wikipedia, Plant Propaganda, Delete Facts, Deceive and Attack US Citizens

He does have a point. If other secret services and governments released their data into the public domain, we wouldn't have to rely on the CIA World Factbook and the State Dept. reports so much. ;-) Erik _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

maru dubshinki

2:55 p.m.

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On 4/17/06, Ben Lowe <ben.lowe(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Shh! If you talk about it publically, they may discover how we are financing the corrupt regimes of Wikicommons and Wikibooks with revenue from our War on [[Heroin]]! ~maru

Ryan Delaney

3:24 p.m.

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On 4/17/06, maru dubshinki <marudubshinki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Shh! If you talk about it publically, they may discover how we are financing the corrupt regimes of Wikicommons and Wikibooks with revenue from our War on [[Heroin]]! ~maru

I thought we were using Wikipedia to sell drugs in the third world... did I miss the memo? Ryan

Guettarda

3:28 p.m.

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On 4/17/06, Ryan Delaney <ryan.delaney(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4/17/06, maru dubshinki <marudubshinki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Shh! If you talk about it publically, they may discover how we are financing the corrupt regimes of Wikicommons and Wikibooks with revenue from our War on [[Heroin]]! ~maru

I thought we were using Wikipedia to sell drugs in the third world... did I miss the memo?

No, you just misread it. Wikipedia is a free encyclopaedia. The drugs distributed will be free, or just designed to cover the cost of their production... but wait, the cheap drugs are already in the thrid world... or are you talking about meds?

Ray Saintonge

10:20 p.m.

Ben Lowe wrote:

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Prohías would not have given any greater credit to white-ops. Ec

Josh Gordon

4:21 p.m.

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This would be Les Sachs writing. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incide… of libel and fraud in article space -- --jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ On 4/17/06, Mathias Schindler <neubau(a)presroi.de> wrote:

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MacGyverMagic/Mgm

10:09 p.m.

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US intelligence? Why do people like this always focus on the US? We couldn't have done this with the help of so many other countries' secret intelligence ops. Mgm On 4/17/06, Josh Gordon <user.jpgordon(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Nathaniel Sheetz

10:28 p.m.

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Don't you get it? The US is the only evil force in the world today (just ask the New York Times or the Daily Mirror), so it follows that something as diabolical as Wikipedia could only have originiated from one place. Nathaniel On 4/17/06, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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This would be Les Sachs writing. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incide…

of libel and fraud in article space -- --jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ On 4/17/06, Mathias Schindler <neubau(a)presroi.de> wrote: > >

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/msg/9f1da2e6d4ad21f3?…

Wikipedia and the CIA - How US Intelligence Can Embed in Wikipedia, Plant Propaganda, Delete Facts, Deceive and Attack US Citizens Wikipedia An Ultimate Trojan Horse for CIA and US Government on the Internet

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Fastfission

18 Apr 18 Apr

2:47 p.m.

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Only the US intelligence services would waste resources and time on something as relatively insignificant in world affairs as Wikipedia ;-) FF On 4/17/06, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Alex Regh

11:56 a.m.

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Hi! On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:21:00 -0700, Josh Gordon wrote:

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This would be Les Sachs writing. See:

That would be this person:

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Dr. Les Sachs sought asylum in Holland after a vindictive American court banned him from writing about Patricia Cornwell, a political ally and major contributor to the Bush Administration, whom he accused of plagiarism and other misdeeds. Sach's complaint over the abuse of judicial power for political purposes is based on his personal experience as a targeted victim.* His report outlines the mechanism by which his banning was accomplished.

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I am a peaceful, gentle man. I was one of America's most educated citizens, a successful writer. But I dared to criticize a wealthy friend of the George Bush family, the right-wing extremist author Patricia Cornwell, who has neo-Nazi inclinations and a life of scandal to match. (See the online "Patricia Cornwell Biography - Crime, Bribery, Scandal and Mental Illness"). [http://cornwell-scandal.tripod.com/pcbio.html, accessed May 31, 2005]

MacGyverMagic/Mgm

3:51 p.m.

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Peaceful and gentle? I must've missed the memo. Accusing people of plagiarism and what not tends to not get you friendly replies and I'm pretty sure the Bush administration had nothing to do with it. They wouldn't care if an author wins a court case. Anyone who calls someone names and rants about their political preferences and supposed neo-Nazi sympathies is vindictive and probably has issues of their own. Mgm On 4/18/06, Alex Regh <Alex.Here(a)gmx.net> wrote:

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Hi! On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:21:00 -0700, Josh Gordon wrote:

This would be Les Sachs writing. See:

That would be this person:

from http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/judicialrefugee_05a.htm I think that answers about all questions one might have ... If I can find an onion, I might even shed a tear for him. Alex (Who just loves conspiracy theories - although, I must say, using the CIA is a bit outdated) -- If you don't go over the top, you can't see what's on the other side. --- Jim Steinman --- Alex' Assorted Homepages: www.alexsite.de _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Ray Saintonge

17 Apr 17 Apr

10:03 p.m.

Mathias Schindler wrote:

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It's noteworthy to consider that the top of the sponsors for the page was:

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Become a CIA Agent <http://www.google.com/pagead/iclk?sa=l&ai=BE-Iong9ERLKkCtCULpOFrc0Pooq2B-bsgMcBwI23AYDTDhABGAEg99uNAigDSIs5UNDx170FmAGwnI8EoAGIlL7-A6oBMm1zZ3ZpZXcrRXhwZXJpbWVudEdyb3Vwc0IwMytwdWJsaWMrbm9uYWR1bHQrdXNlbmV0yAEB2gFRL2dyb3VwL2FsdC5nb3NzaXAuY2VsZWJyaXRpZXMvbXNnLzlmMWRhMmU2ZDRhZDIxZjM_JmhsPWVuJnE9aW5zdWJqZWN0JTNBd2lraXBlZGlhlQIeiAsK&num=1&adurl=http://www.criminaljustice-degrees.com/index.cfm%3Fkey%3Dgo_2_13r%26v%3Dgoogle%26c%3D4563884%26cat%3D201771854%26mt%3DContent%26ad%3D327887324%26st%3Dcentral%2520intelligence%2520agency> Start a career in the CIA with a Criminal Justice degree. www.criminaljustice-degrees.com

It doesn't surprise me to see the CIA playing both sides. Ec

Mark Gallagher

19 Apr 19 Apr

11:05 a.m.

G'day Mathias,

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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/msg/9f1da2e6d4ad21f3?…

<snip /> Hmm ... Much like the United States itself, Wikipedia pretends to be a "democracy". They proudly trumpet: "Anyone can edit Wikipedia!" Would this fellow hate us more or less if he realised Wikipedia Is Communism? (or Fascism, or bogey-word-of-your-choice) -- Mark Gallagher "What? I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!" - Danger Mouse -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 18/04/2006

Mathias Schindler

5:14 p.m.

Mark Gallagher wrote:

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Much like the United States itself, Wikipedia pretends to be a "democracy". They proudly trumpet: "Anyone can edit Wikipedia!" Would this fellow hate us more or less if he realised Wikipedia Is Communism? (or Fascism, or bogey-word-of-your-choice)

<lame>...In Sowjet Russia, Wikipedia edits you. </??????> Mathias At least de.wp does not even pretend to be a democracy. We only claim that some aspects of decision making are similar to those in democracies. Apart from the feudalistic, meritocratic, monarchist, anarchist and technocratic ones. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Machtstruktur

Steve Bennett

9:10 p.m.

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On 19/04/06, Mathias Schindler <neubau(a)presroi.de> wrote:

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At least de.wp does not even pretend to be a democracy. We only claim that some aspects of decision making are similar to those in democracies. Apart from the feudalistic, meritocratic, monarchist, anarchist and technocratic ones.

en quite specifically disclaims being a democracy. And to the extent that occasionally it is democratic, it again disclaims ever being more democratic than necessary. Steve

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Alex Regh
Ben Lowe
Erik Moeller
Fastfission
Guettarda
Josh Gordon
MacGyverMagic/Mgm
Mark Gallagher
maru dubshinki
Mathias Schindler
Nathaniel Sheetz
Ray Saintonge
Rob
Ryan Delaney
Steve Bennett