Bill Carter wrote: Why should they? Consensus seems to have been comprehensively established that he's not notable to our standards. See [[WP:HOLE]].

The - uh - main one is pretty politically contraversial. Bian On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Tris Thomas <Tris(a)waterhay.co.uk> wrote:

There is Wikipedia Review: http://wikipediareview.com/ It is not considered favourably by many. 2009/4/9 Tris Thomas <Tris(a)waterhay.co.uk>uk>:

Bill Carter wrote: Mosey over there. They'll make you feel right at home. Charles

As someone who does post to WR, [queue hiss boos from the true-believers], I did consider taking your case there. However, then I looked at your "article" and the surrounding debate and decided it had no merits whatsoever. Perhaps I can refer you to this page for further help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:STICK Bill Carter wrote:

And we shall all hold hands and love one another, right? You obviously have no consideration for fairness and accuracy. I will raise this issue for as long as it takes. You can return to your apathy now. For everyone else, take my angry diatribes seriously and verify the accusations I am making. the article with 40 citations that was speedy deleted remains here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox_The_unloved_artic… Bill ________________________________ From: Tris Thomas <Tris(a)waterhay.co.uk> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 4:40:53 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia Forum Earlier today I was actually relatively supportive of your issue. You, with your last few posts, have turned me against it. I won't try & stop it being put on again, but there will be no more support from my end. Firstly, this isn't an administrators mailing list, I've only been a member for a few days-my username is dottydotdot & I can still participate fully. Just because not many people have replied to your stuff about Cabal doesn't give you the right to get angry & start swearing on what was a perfectly civil mailing list. I highly doubt you will get any support from anyone on this mailing list now, people who once might have supported you. Please don't bother to continue your diatribe. Thank you. :-) On 09/04/2009 21:27, Bill Carter wrote: _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Thank you! Please don't send his rubbish to me! On 09/04/2009 21:47, David Gerard wrote:

Bill Carter schreef: The article is excellently referenced, but it just fails to make me care. Why is this journalist more interesting than others? What makes him notable? Give us a reason why he should have an article. I'm as inclusionist as no other, but this article doesn't show me in any way how Alan Cabal is different from his colleagues, who don't get an article. (And don't post it to the list: edit the article to make it clear why it should be returned to the encyclopedia.) Eugene

2009/4/9 Tris Thomas <Tris(a)waterhay.co.uk>uk>: Closest I can think of is the Village Pump :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VP UninvitedCompany started a forum a while ago which attracted a good range of editors, but which I haven't heard much of lately. (I can't stand the forum interface myself.) - d.