Not all of use would address this issue as aggressively as Mr Herbert.
There are many times when admin actions are unjustified and game-players can easily create
an appearance of consensus when there is none.
I've already commented on the justice or lack of this action earlier.? What might be
useful is if you could create a synopsis of what you think occurred and why and what
actions were taken, over the course of this situation and post it off-wiki with deep
links.
When a flashlight doesn't work, shine a spotlight, see if that works.
Will Johnson
-----Original Message-----
From: George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>;
rebroad+wikimedia.org(a)gmail.com
Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2009 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] admins blocking but refusing to justify which policy orguideline
applies
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:19 PM, R E
Broadley<rebroad+wikimedia.org(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Given that admins are supposed to follow wikipedia
policy (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ADMINABUSE#Administrator_conduct),
I'd suggest that it the admins who have failed to do this that are the
liability to the project. I am very concerned that many seem to get away
with flouting policy, and it seems very rare that admin access is taken away
from admins that do this.
I believe my edits speak for themselves as to why I am an asset to the
project, and also the fact that I follow Wikipedia's policies, as well as
contribute to a wide range of articles.
Regards,
Ed
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Steve Bennett <stevagewp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, R E
> Broadley<rebroad+wikimedia.org(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > My last 2 or 3 unblock requests have explained that the procedures
> > mentioned in the guideline were not followed, so surely the block
> > should not stand, should it?
>
> I really hope there's more to your request for unblocking than "the
> procedures...were not followed". I would focus on explaining why
> exactly you're an asset to the project, rather than a liability.
> Nitpicking admins won't get you far (I hope).
>
> Steve
I have reviewed your edits before the block, the warnings you were
given, and in my opinion the block was entirely justified.
I understand that you disagree that you're violating our policy and
being disruptive. However, a large number of other editors and admins
find your behavior to be disruptive and violating policy. Continuing
to insist you have done nothing wrong indicates a profound disrespect
for Wikipedia's community and our input on your behavior. You have
been repeatedly warned, asked nicely to edit in a more friendly and
collegial manner, and yet you return to abusive behavior insisting you
have done nothing wrong.
The next step down this road is either an indefinite block by an
administrator or a community ban. I urge you to reconsider how you
engage in Wikipedia, whether you are tempermentally suited to
participate in a collaborative community or not. If you can still see
nothing wrong with your behavior, then I suggest you just walk away
from Wikipedia before we take actions to force you away. If you can
understand that you're doing something wrong and work with us to try
and avoid repeating it in the future you hopefully can return to
productive editing.
The choice is up to you. I hope that you will be mature and
responsible about this and look at your own behavior more critically.
--
-george william herbert
george.herbert(a)gmail.com
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