How can reporting the law and the opinions of the
people be considered
something that should be subject to censorship? I
know there is the
European HR tradition of limiting free speech for
specific reasons, but such
censorship of legal opinions and legal arguments
goes to the core of one's
conception of a free and democratic society.
I think the french law is certainly far less
restricting than the current censorship imposed on the
french wiki.
Typical subjects censored are everything around race,
racialism, racism, nazism, fachism, holocause,
judaism, racist insults, lepen...
However, censorship can also be more snicky
For example, Jos� Bove article is also censored. The
reason given of the censorship (aside from censoring
editors because they use the same nick than other
contributors) is that adding too much of one side
would unbalance the article. As a consequence, the
solution chosen is not to put more of the minor side,
but rather to remove some of the major side. Which is
quite a interesting option toward success of a
complete article. One has the right to add a fact only
he is similarly himself add the other side.
I think the problem was solved this morning as someone
created another Jos� Bov� article (called [[Jos�
Bov�/NPOV]]). This article removed in particular the
whole list of condemnations of Jos� Bov� by french law
except one in 1998. In case some of you don't know,
Jos� is currently in prison for his illegal (by french
law) actions of destruction of gmo fields and mac
donald.
However, indicating Jos� has been fined and is
currently in prison is a POV statement and has clearly
to be removed, as probably untrue.
I think it quite funny that previous contributors were
censored as their additions were said liable by french
law, and that now contributions are censored because
they are reporting french law decisions.
Perhaps, the english article on Jos� Bov� could report
the truth. Currently, it is a rather poor article.
completely agree this is
shocking Anthere! Maybe there should be articles
about these taboo French
subjects on English pages. My French is good enough
to translate into
English, I am sure there are others who could help
translate (even maybe
getting it started with machine translation, that
would be allowed under the
open content license no? Perhaps you could put the
banned French versions on
English talk pages make a list called [[List of
banned French pages
translating into English]] and then we can built up
the pages as people have
time to translate them into English. Wouldn't it be
o.k. to keep the French
texts on the talk pages?
Interesting
Most would be difficult to translate as not pages are
usually censored, but part of the content.
But, we could at least update the Bov� article
I will think about that.
As far as the _very_ strict
puritanic tradition in
the US, perhaps there should be a wiki server in
Canada or some other
country that is more liberal minded in some respects
about allowing people
to discuss and publish/broadcast "taboo" subjects.
Alex756
Interesting proposition. Especially since Canada is
also speaking French. I note that no french canadian
contributors has ever complained a contribution was
liable by canadian law.
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