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cu clt

9 Jun 2007 9 Jun '07

1:32 a.m.

User Blnguyen an Arbcom member of is showing obscene partisanship on Hkelkar 2 Arbcom case because he owes his king maker much. See how he prepares the prolix script for desysopping User Rama's Arrow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar_2/P… If he had any sense of decency he should have recused. See how his patronage of Bakasuprman in his block log. 1. 08:09, 2 August 2006 Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen> ( Talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Blnguyen> | contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blnguyen>) blocked "Bakasuprman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman> ( contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bakasuprman>)" with an expiry time of 72 hours (Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bakasuprman<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reques…) 72 hours for "abusive sockpuppetry" 2. 05:07, 14 August 2006 Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen>( Talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Blnguyen> | contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blnguyen>) blocked "Bakasuprman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman> ( contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bakasuprman>)" with an expiry time of 15 minutes (warning-warring with BhaiSaab, mutual niggling for a week now) 15 minutes for incivility (repeated how often!) Four days later. 3. 04:29, 18 August 2006 Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen>( Talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Blnguyen> | contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blnguyen>) blocked "Bakasuprman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman> ( contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bakasuprman>)" with an expiry time of 30 minutes (adding bogus vandal tags to User talk:BhaiSaab <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BhaiSaab>) 3o minutes! Emboldened by Blnguyen's brazen determination his king maker has begun to lecture an Arbcom member with his customary, stupid referents (who showed displayed some common sense about the case) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jpgordon&diff=prev&…

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Matthew Brown

9 Jun 9 Jun

2:19 a.m.

It'd be nice if you identified which on-Wiki user you are - I didn't see that. This is why several arbcom members have suggested banning the lot of you and are only slightly joking. With few exceptions, the editors involved in this arbcom case seem unable to cease their warring and work together at all. They view everything and every editor through the lens of their conflict; everyone is either on their side or biased against them. -Matt

cu clt

6:59 a.m.

I am one of this bunch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Ku… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Kuntan Forgot myself exactly which one. Many of them are not mine. I viewed Rama's Arrow with contempt until he chose to block those rabid Hindutvavadi bastards, who were active participants of for which he is in the soup now. Blnguyen's extreme partiality towards an Indian extreme rightist nationalist party's views should raise some questions. Do you mete out 72 hours block for abusive sockpuppetry, 10 or 30 minutes for repeated incivility etc? On 6/9/07, Matthew Brown <morven(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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It'd be nice if you identified which on-Wiki user you are - I didn't see that.

Thomas Dalton

7:13 a.m.

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rabid Hindutvavadi bastards

You're not going to get much sympathy round here with comments like that.

michael west

7:15 a.m.

We are yearning for you - that wikipedia NPOV is just so evident. good luck On 09/06/07, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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rabid Hindutvavadi bastards

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cu clt

9:44 a.m.

I messed some parts of my post. I meant rabid Hindutvavadi bastards *who were active on a bulletin board of hate campaign called hinduunity.org* (banned in India, I suppose.) Somebody provided evidence of Hindu editors' activity on that board. Blnguyen conveniently overlooked every piece of evidence against the army of trolls under user nearly headless nick. What provoked that "vaguely comprehensibly English" comment? The log entries that lost format and appearing as disordered links? On 6/9/07, cu clt <abcclt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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michael west

10:15 a.m.

Getting Mad about articles isn't good. Everyperson on the list "rants and raves" sometimes. Calling people Bastards isn't generally looked on as good. It isnt a very cool word to use. take a break from wikipedia for a few days (it works) and come back and help me develop some south india stubs. good for both of us :-) mike On 09/06/07, cu clt <abcclt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Goolzaur

21 Jun 21 Jun

7:28 p.m.

cu clt wrote:

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It'd be nice if you identified which on-Wiki user you are - I didn't see that.

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Considering that the "sockpuppet" accounts were never blocked, and that Bakasuprman didn't break 3RR, votestack, or cheat blocks, blnguyen never brought it up again. I worked with Bakasuprman on Ashfaqulla Khan and found that he knows a ton on India. However he seems to be an ultraconservative user, however smart he is. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Arbcom-member%27s-prolix-script-for-foul-play-tf38933… Sent from the English Wikipedia mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

cu clt

24 Jun 24 Jun

1:42 a.m.

I think you have missed serious things. Arbcom case seems to have been rigged by trolls. The evidence presented by excellent editors were not even looked at. See. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar_2/E… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar_2/E… What Bakasuprman knows a ton on India comes from certain notorious websites, a few psuedo/fringe scholars etc. The regular pattern of Hindutva trolls has been to remove all criticism of people and subjects dear to Bharatiya Janata Party and its allies (Narendra Modi, or Arun Shorie for example) to tarnish their critics and politicians of other camps (eg. Rahul Gandhi), targeting scholars and writers who have efficiently exposed the extreme rightist views on history and culture and spreading lies against them (Romila Thapar and Arundati Roy for example). On 6/22/07, Goolzaur <munaafiq(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Ray Saintonge

6:09 p.m.

cu clt wrote:

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I think you have missed serious things. Arbcom case seems to have been rigged by trolls.

Thank you for saying that so early in your e-mail. It saves me the trouble of trying to make sense of the rest. Ec

cu clt

11:33 p.m.

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cu clt wrote:

I think you have missed serious things. Arbcom case seems to have been rigged by trolls.

Thank you for saying that so early in your e-mail. It saves me the trouble of trying to make sense of the rest. Ec _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Ray Saintonge

25 Jun 25 Jun

12:11 p.m.

The point you seem to miss is that when you BEGIN by attacking people as "trolls" you set the tone for the entire rest of your e-mail. The fact is that the volume of mail that goes through this list is huge, and most of us are very happy to find a reason to reduce the amount that we need to read. Most of the people here are unlikely to have any background in the problem that you have. It may be perfectly valid, but we have no desire to step into the middle of a pissing match. By using the expression "rigged by trolls" as you have, you are just inviting us into that pissing match. Ec cu clt wrote:

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If you can so readily trust a committee and substitute your judgments with theirs, you might be able save much much more troubles. Powerful lobbies push their case in every election (be it RfA or Arbcom election). Blnguyen has been the lamest addition. On 6/25/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote: >cu clt wrote: > > >>I think you have missed serious things. Arbcom case seems to have been >>rigged by trolls. >> >> >Thank you for saying that so early in your e-mail. It saves me the >trouble of trying to make sense of the rest. >

Anirudh

12:22 p.m.

This is banned user [[User:Kuntan]] now trolling on the WikiEN-I list. Moderators need to ban him from here. Sir Nicholas On 6/25/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote:

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If you can so readily trust a committee and substitute your judgments

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theirs, you might be able save much much more troubles. Powerful lobbies push their case in every election (be it RfA or Arbcom election).

Blnguyen

has been the lamest addition. On 6/25/07, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote: >cu clt wrote: > > >>I think you have missed serious things. Arbcom case seems to have been >>rigged by trolls. >> >> >Thank you for saying that so early in your e-mail. It saves me the >trouble of trying to make sense of the rest. >

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C.J. Croy

9 Jun 9 Jun

8:35 a.m.

On 6/9/07, Matthew Brown <morven(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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This is why several arbcom members have suggested banning the lot of you and are only slightly joking.

I offer the following templates if you should decide to follow through on that. Principles: ===WAR! What is it good for?=== n) Wikipedia is not supposed to be a battleground, but sometimes it's turned into one. Like all wars, a WikiWar will will only end once the rivers run red with blood and every eye burns with tears. :'''Comment by Arbitrators:''' :: :'''Comment by parties:''' :: :'''Comment by others:''' :: Findings of fact: ===Without redemption=== n) Every single involved party is irredeemable. No one, not even Jimbo or Jesus, believes they can be reformed into productive editors. :'''Comment by Arbitrators:''' :: :'''Comment by parties:''' :: :'''Comment by others:''' :: Proposed remedies: ===Kill it with fire=== n} Every single involved party is indefinitely banned. Their talk and user pages are to be deleted and defiled as is most offensive to their personal belief system. :'''Comment by Arbitrators:''' :: :'''Comment by parties:''' :: :'''Comment by others:''' ::

Christiano Moreschi

8:39 a.m.

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From: "C.J. Croy" <cjcroy(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Arbcom member's prolix script for foul play Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 06:35:20 -0600 On 6/9/07, Matthew Brown <morven(a)gmail.com> wrote:

This is why several arbcom members have suggested banning the lot of you and are only slightly joking.

That's classic. Hilarious. That should definitely be used next time we have an Arbitration case like Armenia/Azerbaijan. Ban all the bastards! Moreschi _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/

Gwern Branwen

11:04 a.m.

On 0, "C.J. Croy" <cjcroy(a)gmail.com> scribbled:

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On 6/9/07, Matthew Brown <morven(a)gmail.com> wrote:

This is why several arbcom members have suggested banning the lot of you and are only slightly joking.

No, no - you forgot the outside view's proposed remedy: ===Nuke it=== *I say we take off and nuke the entire bunch from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. ~~~ -- Gwern Inquiring minds want to know.

cu clt

19 Jun 19 Jun

1:42 a.m.

The Yellow Monkey (as Arbcom member Blnguyen calls himself) has once again exposed his saffron (Hindu revivalist) colour. I earlier mentioned his petting and patting the arch troll [[User:Bakasuprman<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman>]]>]]. Bakasuprman and another user were blocked for one week for prolonged edit-warring. The block imposed by an uninvolved admin came after a discussion on ANI. However, Blnguyen has unilaterally overturned the block with the support of his regular army of Hindutva trolls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incide… The unholy alliance between Bakasuprman and Arbcom member Blnguyen has been known for some time. For example, Bakasuprman has been taking his cue from Blnguyen to violate civility regularly. "Also stringing together an issue of politics/religion with another editors issues with history is hardly indicative of any sting of unreliability. Your Ad hominem circumstantial<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Ad_hominem_circum… does not hold, and bringing up WP:CIVIL <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CIVIL> is useless because as User:Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen>, an arbitrator has noted, civility is disregarded in India related matters." The quote is from a comment of Bakasuprman at an RfC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Freedom_ski… Another editor specifically requested Blnguyen to make clear the statememtn ascribed to him. Blnguyen didn't comply. Such a partisan Arbcom member is detrimental to the project.

Skander -

10:53 a.m.

It's an RFA, not an RFC... About the issue... I have no opinion. I don't know this ArbCom member. Perhaps bring it up with him yourself? 2007/6/19, cu clt <abcclt(a)gmail.com>om>:

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The Yellow Monkey (as Arbcom member Blnguyen calls himself) has once again exposed his saffron (Hindu revivalist) colour. I earlier mentioned his petting and patting the arch troll [[User:Bakasuprman<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman>]]>]]. Bakasuprman and another user were blocked for one week for prolonged edit-warring. The block imposed by an uninvolved admin came after a discussion on ANI. However, Blnguyen has unilaterally overturned the block with the support of his regular army of Hindutva trolls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incide… The unholy alliance between Bakasuprman and Arbcom member Blnguyen has been known for some time. For example, Bakasuprman has been taking his cue from Blnguyen to violate civility regularly. "Also stringing together an issue of politics/religion with another editors issues with history is hardly indicative of any sting of unreliability. Your Ad hominem circumstantial< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Ad_hominem_circumstantial>argume… does not hold, and bringing up WP:CIVIL <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CIVIL> is useless because as User:Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen>, an arbitrator has noted, civility is disregarded in India related matters." The quote is from a comment of Bakasuprman at an RfC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Freedom_ski… Another editor specifically requested Blnguyen to make clear the statememtn ascribed to him. Blnguyen didn't comply. Such a partisan Arbcom member is detrimental to the project. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

George Herbert

2:07 p.m.

Can someone put this racist nutter on moderation and keep him there? -george On 6/18/07, cu clt <abcclt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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cu clt

20 Jun 20 Jun

6:20 a.m.

Racist? me? You sound funny. I am talking about the abuse of a pro-Hindu Arbcom member against a avowed Hindu editor, User:Rama's Arrow, while holding both in contempt for their relgious prejudices. What do you find racist here? Now see, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rama%27s_Arrow The fellow has 11 FAs to his credit while the Arbcom guy has one or two piss poor FAs on some cricketers and a huge pile of stupid Dyks. There was a time when Rama's Arrow should have been blocked for his incivility. When he heaped abuse on User:Mel Etitis none of these trolls spoke against him because he was one among them. Now they are at his throats and they have won. On 6/19/07, George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Can someone put this racist nutter on moderation and keep him there? -george On 6/18/07, cu clt <abcclt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

The Yellow Monkey (as Arbcom member Blnguyen calls himself) has once

again

exposed his saffron (Hindu revivalist) colour. I earlier mentioned his petting and patting the arch troll [[User:Bakasuprman<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman>]]>]]. Bakasuprman and another user were blocked for one week for prolonged edit-warring. The block imposed by an uninvolved admin came after a discussion on ANI. However, Blnguyen has unilaterally overturned the

block

with the support of his regular army of Hindutva trolls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incide…

The unholy alliance between Bakasuprman and Arbcom member Blnguyen has

been

known for some time. For example, Bakasuprman has been taking his cue

from

Blnguyen to violate civility regularly. "Also stringing together an issue of politics/religion with another

editors

issues with history is hardly indicative of any sting of unreliability.

Your

Ad hominem circumstantial<

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Ad_hominem_circumstantial>argume…

does not hold, and bringing up WP:CIVIL <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CIVIL> is useless because as User:Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen>, an

arbitrator

has noted, civility is disregarded in India related matters." The quote is from a comment of Bakasuprman at an RfC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Freedom_ski…

Another editor specifically requested Blnguyen to make clear the

statememtn

ascribed to him. Blnguyen didn't comply. Such a partisan Arbcom member is detrimental to the project. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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David Gerard

7:26 a.m.

On 20/06/07, cu clt <abcclt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I am talking about the abuse of a pro-Hindu Arbcom member against a avowed Hindu editor, User:Rama's Arrow, while holding both in contempt for their

This contributor, having made their complaint, is quite definitely now on moderation. See the current long-running arbitration case. - d.

Goolzaur

21 Jun 21 Jun

7:31 p.m.

Finding indian religious nutters is like finding a bhang lassi where I live (not obvious, but they're everywhere). George Herbert wrote:

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Can someone put this racist nutter on moderation and keep him there? -george On 6/18/07, cu clt <abcclt(a)gmail.com> wrote:

-- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Arbcom-member%27s-prolix-script-for-foul-play-tf38933… Sent from the English Wikipedia mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Christiano Moreschi

9 Jun 9 Jun

7:40 a.m.

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From: "cu clt" <abcclt(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Arbcom member's prolix script for foul play Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 11:02:44 +0530 User Blnguyen an Arbcom member of is showing obscene partisanship on Hkelkar 2 Arbcom case because he owes his king maker much. See how he prepares the prolix script for desysopping User Rama's Arrow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar_2/P… If he had any sense of decency he should have recused. See how his patronage of Bakasuprman in his block log. 1. 08:09, 2 August 2006 Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen> ( Talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Blnguyen> | contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blnguyen>) blocked "Bakasuprman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman> ( contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bakasuprman>)" with an expiry time of 72 hours (Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bakasuprman<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reques…) 72 hours for "abusive sockpuppetry" 2. 05:07, 14 August 2006 Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen>( Talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Blnguyen> | contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blnguyen>) blocked "Bakasuprman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman> ( contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bakasuprman>)" with an expiry time of 15 minutes (warning-warring with BhaiSaab, mutual niggling for a week now) 15 minutes for incivility (repeated how often!) Four days later. 3. 04:29, 18 August 2006 Blnguyen <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Blnguyen>( Talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Blnguyen> | contribs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blnguyen>) blocked "Bakasuprman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bakasuprman> ( contribs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bakasuprman>)" with an expiry time of 30 minutes (adding bogus vandal tags to User talk:BhaiSaab <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BhaiSaab>) 3o minutes! Emboldened by Blnguyen's brazen determination his king maker has begun to lecture an Arbcom member with his customary, stupid referents (who showed displayed some common sense about the case) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jpgordon&diff=prev&…

Whatever. Next time, please bother to write in vaguely comprehensibly English. These India wars are seriously depressing, and seemingly populated by a never-ending supply of nationalist nutcases (though that seems to be true for all the ethnic fights). I don't think anyone's listening. Moreschi _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk/

michael west

8:06 a.m.

Honestly that is not the way we should treat anybody.

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Christiano Moreschi <moreschiwikiman(a)hotmail.co.uk> replied Whatever. Next time, please bother to write in vaguely comprehensibly English. These India wars are seriously depressing, and seemingly populated by a never-ending supply of nationalist nutcases (though that seems to be true for all the ethnic fights). I don't think anyone's listening. Moreschi

Christiano Moreschi

8:19 a.m.

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From: "michael west" <michawest(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Arbcom member's prolix script for foul play Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:06:43 +0100 Honestly that is not the way we should treat anybody.

Christiano Moreschi <moreschiwikiman(a)hotmail.co.uk> replied Whatever. Next time, please bother to write in vaguely comprehensibly English. These India wars are seriously depressing, and seemingly

populated

by a never-ending supply of nationalist nutcases (though that seems to

be > true for all the ethnic fights). I don't think anyone's listening. > > Moreschi

michael west

8:38 a.m.

Please "these people" are we in a world of our own? its the same conflict if its a town in New Hampshire or a sport team. All editors deserve the same amount of dignity and respect and we should help them source conflicts.

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Have you ever spent a few hours in the evening cleaning up after socking banned users? Trust me, it stinks. After that, your tolerance for these people is nonexistent. Moreschi _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Anirudh
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