Hi James
This list would definitely work. Almost all task list items are biographies / BLP.
I'm not sure I understand how they are implemented or how the info is collocated, but
yes. We could make sure the almost 1,000 items all have Wikidata items. That would be the
heavy lifting part on our side. But if it could produce granulated results by gender, by
residence, by place born, that would totally work!
So I think the constraints are:
- gender
- residence
- place of birth
Let me know what I can do.
We have a Google Sheet document to keep track of the task list that has a checklist of
which entries need Wikidata items. It's going to take time to update and vet but it
seemed like an organized approach. We are collocating the artists in both Wikipedia as
well as on Commons with the category Visual artists of the African diaspora.
I have a lot of experience editing XML and can learn template structures as needed. I have
to skill up on queries but I can do that too.
Best,
- Erika
On Feb 7, 2017, at 5:56 PM, James Hare
<jamesmhare(a)gmail.com> wrote:
One place where Wikidata has been very good for task list automation has been
biographies. See for example this automated list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Technology/Tas…
Reports are these are made possible by the existence of these articles on other language
Wikipedias, as well as Wikidata entries that are created for other reasons. To this end
they’ve been very helpful in identifying gaps in our knowledge of what’s out there to
write about.
Right now if you want a list like that one, you can… wait for it… edit a specific
configuration page on Wikipedia and add the SPARQL query you want to generate the report
for. Not a very satisfying answer, is it. But is it the kind of list you’re generally
looking for? Or are you looking for something else? In the long run, I plan on building
reports such as these into the CollaborationKit extension that Jan linked to earlier (demo
at
https://wpx.wmflabs.org/w/index.php/Main_Page). If I know specifically what is needed,
that would be helpful.
(There’s also ListeriaBot, run by the world famous Magnus Manske, but I don’t know how
that works.)
> On February 7, 2017 at 2:18:08 AM, Erika Herzog aka BrillLyle
(wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Hi Sandra/Spinster,
>
> Yes! This is exactly what I was envisioning.
>
> How does the query build this table -- and can it include stubs and other blue linked
articles that still need development? Both blue and red links?
>
> I'm sorry I didn't take a more active part in the Community Wishlist Survey.
I would have strongly advocated for this. A need for task list automation is something
that I have been made aware of only recently via the Black Lunch Table Project. It is a
great opportunity to be pro-Wikidata -- to get more people involved in Wikidata from the
Wikipedia side, I think.
>
> Best,
>
> - Erika
>
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Sandra Fauconnier <sandra.fauconnier(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> I suggested something with, I think, similar functionality for the Community
Wishlist Survey last time; got many supports but it didn’t make the top. Is this what
you’d like to see as well, Erika?
>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Categories/P…
>>
>> In the Dutch gender gap project on nlwiki we have similarly daunting task lists.
Our working group is pro-Wikidata, we use it to inspire our task lists, but I’m sure that
appropriate tools would make our workload there much lighter.
>>
>> Here’s an example of something that comes close - an auto-updating list of
important female visual artists who don’t have articles on nlwiki yet, a list generated
from Wikidata - but it would be so great if we could add columns to suggest translations
from other language Wikipedias, for instance, and if such lists would be easier to
generate and create, also by non-Wikidata-or SPARQL-savvy people.
>>
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Gendergap/Kunst/Vrouwel…
>>
>> Best, Sandra/Spinster
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 5 Feb 2017, at 09:51, Brill Lyle <wp.brilllyle(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Wikidatans,
>>>
>>> Inspired by the Zika corpus project at WikiCite 2016,[1] I wanted to see if
it was (a) possible and (b) practical to set up an automatically updating table (ideally
for use in Wikipedia but pulling from Wikidata) that would allow the Black Lunch Table
Project initiative on Wikipedia to automate and customize their Task List -- which is
somewhat massive.[2]
>>>
>>> Heather Hart from Black Lunch Table holds editathons all over North
America,[3] and I think they will be intersectional with some of the other Wikipedia
initiatives. So for events in places like North Carolina or New Orleans, it would be
helpful for her to be able to pull artists from those communities. And for Art+Feminism in
March, it would be helpful for her to be able to pull artists who are female-identifying.
>>>
>>> We set up some categories as a way to granulate a possible SPARQL query:
>>>
>>> - Wikipedia category:
>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Visual_artists_of_the_African_diaspo…
>>>
>>> - Wikimedia Commons category:
>>>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Visual_artists_of_the_African_d…
>>>
>>> Wikidata item:
>>>
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q28654190
>>>
>>> Right now the task list is approaching 1,000 entries, and I assume the task
list will only grow as it is a crowdsourced list. It is understood that obviously not all
entrants are notable, and many are at mid-career levels, so even a stub might be
stretching it to be on Wikipedia. But a solid percentage are definitely notable and are
deserving of pages.
>>>
>>> I was also thinking that this sort of functionality would be helpful for
other initiatives -- maybe also Art+Feminism -- so this process might be transferrable for
others too.
>>>
>>> Goal: To automate the task list process somewhat.
>>>
>>> And at minimum would be a good Wikidata project.
>>>
>>> I think that even exploring the possibilities here has been very fruitful and
illustrative of Wikidata's functionality for both myself and Heather/Black Lunch Table
Project. I think it might also provide very positive outreach for others as well.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> - Erika
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData/Wikidata…
>>>
>>> [2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lunch_Table/Lists_of_A…
>>>
>>> [3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lunch_Table/Event_Arch…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Erika Herzog
>>> Wikipedia User:BrillLyle
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