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Andy Mabbett

20 May 2012 20 May '12

10:26 p.m.

I've posted some thoughts, at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Unique_Identifiers#… What do you think? How do we relate that project to WikiData? Or they too different? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Denny Vrandečić

30 May 30 May

11:41 a.m.

Hi Andy, thanks, we were not aware of that WikiProject. Would it be sufficient if we allowed to choose, for every item in Wikidata, an identifier scheme or authority (like IMDB, PubChem, ICD11, etc., as per your list) and an external ID, so that the item can be identified within the external scheme? I think that Wikidata will provide the stable identifiers that you seek. Does that make sense? Is the project active? Do we want to discuss? Will someone be at Wikimania? Cheers, Denny 2012/5/20 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>

I've posted some thoughts, at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Unique_Identifiers#… What do you think? How do we relate that project to WikiData? Or they too different? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Martynas Jusevicius

11:46 a.m.

Hey Danny, just like I anticipated -- Wikidata seems to be determined to reinvent not only RDF, but also Linked Data... Martynas graphity.org On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Denny Vrandečić <denny.vrandecic(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

Hi Andy, thanks, we were not aware of that WikiProject. Would it be sufficient if we allowed to choose, for every item in Wikidata, an identifier scheme or authority (like IMDB, PubChem, ICD11, etc., as per your list) and an external ID, so that the item can be identified within the external scheme? I think that Wikidata will provide the stable identifiers that you seek. Does that make sense? Is the project active? Do we want to discuss? Will someone be at Wikimania? Cheers, Denny 2012/5/20 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>

I've posted some thoughts, at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Unique_Identifiers#… What do you think? How do we relate that project to WikiData? Or they too different? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Denny Vrandečić

12:31 p.m.

We would be not reinventing, but reusing Linked Data principles when we provide links to external authorities using owl:sameAs and similar properties in our RDF export. We neither reinvent RDF nor Linked Data, and I do not understand on the base of which data you make this inference. Cheers, Denny 2012/5/30 Martynas Jusevicius <martynas(a)graphity.org>

Hey Danny, just like I anticipated -- Wikidata seems to be determined to reinvent not only RDF, but also Linked Data... Martynas graphity.org On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Denny Vrandečić <denny.vrandecic(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

Hi Andy, thanks, we were not aware of that WikiProject. Would it be sufficient if we allowed to choose, for every item in

Wikidata,

an identifier scheme or authority (like IMDB, PubChem, ICD11, etc., as

per

your list) and an external ID, so that the item can be identified within

the

external scheme? I think that Wikidata will provide the stable

identifiers

that you seek. Does that make sense? Is the project active? Do we want to discuss? Will someone be at Wikimania? Cheers, Denny 2012/5/20 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> > > I've posted some thoughts, at: > > >

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Unique_Identifiers#…

What do you think? How do we relate that project to WikiData? Or they too different? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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