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Gerard Meijssen

2 Dec 2013 2 Dec '13

5:49 p.m.

Hoi, The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. As you may know, Wikidata knows has more items with a label in a language than a Wikipedia has articles. With the Wikidata based functionality people will gain several functionalities that are new to them - a link to Commons categories for a subject - a link to Wikipedia articles in other languages - a link to the Wikidata item - visualisation care of the "Reasonator" When there are multiple items found in the search request, disambiguation will be provided based on the statements available on the items. Obviously as more labels are available in a language for statements, the experience will improve. This is a really exciting new development and I want to thank Magnus and Nemo for making it possible. I hope and expect that many Wikipedias will follow the example of the Italian Wikipedia. Particularly the smaller Wikipedias have much to gain from this new functionality. Thanks, GerardM

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rupert THURNER

3 Dec 3 Dec

7:28 a.m.

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Hi gerard, that sounds really exciting! Is it necessary to change a setting to see this behaviour? If not i d appreciate if you could give an example where one could see this best. Rupert Am 02.12.2013 18:50 schrieb "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>om>:

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Gerard Meijssen

7:56 a.m.

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Hoi, There are two ways of enabling this Wikidata search functionality; Wiki wide and personally. It is done by adding this one line to common.js.. importScriptURI("//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsear…/javascript"); You add it either to mediawiki:common.js or to USER/common.js. Thanks, GerardM On 3 December 2013 08:28, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hoi, The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. As you may know, Wikidata knows

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more items with a label in a language than a Wikipedia has articles. With the Wikidata based functionality people will gain several functionalities that are new to them - a link to Commons categories for a subject - a link to Wikipedia articles in other languages - a link to the Wikidata item - visualisation care of the "Reasonator" When there are multiple items found in the search request, disambiguation will be provided based on the statements available on the items.

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as more labels are available in a language for statements, the experience will improve. This is a really exciting new development and I want to thank Magnus and Nemo for making it possible. I hope and expect that many Wikipedias will follow the example of the Italian Wikipedia. Particularly the smaller Wikipedias have much to gain from this new functionality. Thanks, GerardM _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Cristian Consonni

10:51 a.m.

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Magnus Manske

10:55 a.m.

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I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)? Cheers, Magnus On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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Hi all, I want to propose a logo for reasonator (to substitute the "R" now in use); https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reasonator_logo_proposal.png also, I think that in the mouseover text a more verbose description like: "Show the properties of this item" would be helpful. Ciao, Cristian _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Cristian Consonni

11:25 a.m.

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2013/12/3 Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>om>:

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I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)?

Magnus Manske

11:37 a.m.

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OK, now live with the logo! :-) On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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2013/12/3 Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>om>:

I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)?

((... usual big IANAL disclaimer here ...)) I think so. On Wikimedia sites "You may use and remix the Wikimedia marks on the Wikimedia sites as you please."[1], see also this FAQ[2] which mentions tools. Cristian [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#policy-onwmsites [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark_policy#FAQ-withoutpermission _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Yana Welinder

6 Dec 6 Dec

6 p.m.

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Hi all, Yes! You can do this under the new trademark policy. Here is some discussion about use of logos on Labs: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trademark_policy#Discussion_about_sect…. We'll add some language to the Trademark Policy FAQ to clarify this. Nice logo, Cristian! Best, Yana On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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2013/12/3 Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com>om>:

I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)?

Ori Livneh

5 Dec 5 Dec

6:32 a.m.

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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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Hoi, There are two ways of enabling this Wikidata search functionality; Wiki wide and personally. It is done by adding this one line to common.js.. importScriptURI("// en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js&action=raw&… "); You add it either to mediawiki:common.js or to USER/common.js. Thanks, GerardM

Please don't load the script on every page. It only targets the search result page. This means a redundant request on every page that isn't the search page. You can change it to: if ( mw.config.get( 'wgCanonicalSpecialPageName' ) === 'Search' ) { importScriptURI("// en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js&action=raw&… "); } Thanks! Ori

Andrew Gray

3 Dec 3 Dec

12:29 p.m.

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Here's an example of a hit: Italian has an article on "Riccardo II d'Inghilterra" but doesn't have any redirects at Richard II. However, the various relevant Wikidata entries are at the bottom: https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Richard+II&title=Speciale%3… For a version with only one hit, try "Grace Albee", an artist only on enwiki: https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale%3ARicerca&profile=d… This is really great - well done Magnus & Nemo :-) Would it be worth moving the Reasonator results up to the top right, in a box? There's a lot of white space on the search page, because the result snippets are less than 500px wide... Andrew. On 3 December 2013 07:28, rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hoi, The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata. As you may know, Wikidata knows has more items with a label in a language than a Wikipedia has articles. With the Wikidata based functionality people will gain several functionalities that are new to them a link to Commons categories for a subject a link to Wikipedia articles in other languages a link to the Wikidata item visualisation care of the "Reasonator" When there are multiple items found in the search request, disambiguation will be provided based on the statements available on the items. Obviously as more labels are available in a language for statements, the experience will improve. This is a really exciting new development and I want to thank Magnus and Nemo for making it possible. I hope and expect that many Wikipedias will follow the example of the Italian Wikipedia. Particularly the smaller Wikipedias have much to gain from this new functionality. Thanks, GerardM _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

1:56 p.m.

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Again, I didn't do anything, it's all Magnus' merit. :) And on it.wiki, Jalo's and Rotpunkt's. Andrew Gray, 03/12/2013 13:29:

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Would it be worth moving the Reasonator results up to the top right, in a box? There's a lot of white space on the search page, because the result snippets are less than 500px wide...

As those with good memory may remember, that place used to be occupied by Lucene's interwiki search results. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44420 So, while usage of that space is not unprecedented, I'm not sure this tool is consistent with that expectation (full? text search), which is supposed to be coming back via CirrusSearch. Moving away from that space would be possible any time if CirrusSearch claims it (I hope it will!), but the results e.g. in your Richard II search are quite long and some care would be needed or they'd get quite an untidy visual distraction. If someone comes up with a good design mockup, that would probably help Magnus speedy-code it as his habit. ;-) Nemo

Lydia Pintscher

4:01 p.m.

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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Yay for more cross-project integration. <3 itwp for giving this a try. Thanks to Magnus, Gerard and anyone else involved. I'd love to hear feedback and suggestions for improvements from itwp. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

masti

4 Dec 4 Dec

3:39 p.m.

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On 12/03/2013 05:01 PM, Lydia Pintscher wrote:

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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Yay for more cross-project integration. <3 itwp for giving this a try. Thanks to Magnus, Gerard and anyone else involved. I'd love to hear feedback and suggestions for improvements from itwp.

I have enabled it yesterday for pl.wiki too :) It looks really great. masti

Andy Mabbett

4:54 p.m.

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On 2 December 2013 17:49, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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The Italian Wikipedia is the first project where people who use search will find results added from Wikidata.

This is great; and now on pl.WP too. What about a big button, in the relevant host language, saying "Start a Wikipedia article on this subject" (with a smaller "how to" link alongside)? The edit window could be pre-populated. (I believe the German-language community have also been discussing this idea) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Andrew Gray
Andy Mabbett
Cristian Consonni
Federico Leva (Nemo)
Gerard Meijssen
Lydia Pintscher
Magnus Manske
masti
Ori Livneh
rupert THURNER
Yana Welinder