Congratulations to all the team! This is just an awesome announcement.
Good luck developing WikibaseLexeme. I just contributed with a lexeme,
L870 [1], although I have to improve it yet.
I have one question: "baifo" is a word of the Spanish speaking in the
Canary Islands (a dialect [2]). How could I specify this aspect? In this
case I set Canarian Spanish (Q957764) [3] as language of the lexeme and
in the language of the lemma I use just Spanish. But then, checking the
lexeme I read "Spelling variant" where I use Spanish and "Language"
where I use Canarian Spanish, so it is not correct, because the
"Spelling variant" should be Canarian Spanish, but it is just a dialect
and I only see "es-formal".
Any advice to improve and have a good item?
Regards,
Iván
[1]:
I was too busy yesterday testing, and I forgot to
share my love for your
efforts. :) Today I have another lesson in which I'll talk about
Wikidata, and I'll be sure to say that finally LD started! Thank you!
L.
Il gio 24 mag 2018, 10:19 Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas(a)gmail.com
<mailto:vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com>> ha scritto:
THANK YOU!
I've been expecting this for so long.
@Eran: Q17117425 could made nice lexemes :P
@Micru: even without senses, there is a lot of possible application
(I'd love to have a spell-checker for Wikisource, no sense needed here).
Cheers,
~nicolas
2018-05-24 10:01 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu(a)gmail.com
<mailto:dacuetu@gmail.com>>:
Congratulations on releasing this!
I think the usefulness will improve after releasing Senses, but
it is good that we have something to play with and start
suggesting improvements.
Regards,
Micru
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Eran Rosenthal
<eranroz89(a)gmail.com <mailto:eranroz89@gmail.com>> wrote:
Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is
finally in production.
There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user
interface, but Q17117425 :)
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
<mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hoi,
Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea
absolutely. The labels don't; they describe the idea and
with the possible exception of special cases like
templates lists and categories these labels can be
associated with lexical information. It is vitally
important to have lexical information about them because
they will spark the development of better use of the
information inherently available in the Q-items.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix
<lea.lacroix(a)wikimedia.de
<mailto:lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de>> wrote:
Hello all,
After several years discussing about it, and one
year of development and discussion with the
communities, the development team has now released
the first version of lexicographical data support on
Wikidata
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data>.
Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the
multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on
concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea,
not to the word describing it. Starting now,
Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases
and sentences, in many languages, described in many
languages. This information will be stored in new
types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses.
It will allow editors to describe precisely all
words in all languages, and will be reusable, just
like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple
tools and queries, everything that the community
creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can
be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects,
and can provide support for Wiktionary.
The first release
A new namespace and several new entity types have
been created in order to model words and phrases. If
you’re new to this project, you can learn more by
looking at the documentation
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation>,
briefly describing the data model and the interface.
The technical structure is set, but the editors
remain free to model and organize data as they
prefer, with the usual open discussions and
community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some
discussions about new properties
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes>
to create have already started: if you want to be
involved in the early stage of the project to shape
it, please participate!
Please note that the version that is now deployed is
a first experiment, that will be continuously
improved in the future. Some features are missing,
some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features
that are included in the first release:
* Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements,
qualifiers, references
* Link between the different entity types (Item to
Lexeme, Form to Item, etc.)
* Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value
And the following features will not be included in
the first version, but are planned for the future:
* Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search
* RDF support (which also means: the ability to
query it with
query.wikidata.org
<http://query.wikidata.org>)
* Support for Senses
* Merging of Lexemes
* Including the data on other Wikimedia projects,
such as Wiktionary
How to try it?
The features described above are now deployed on
Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you
can do to explore this new territory:
* If you’re not familiar with the structure of
Lexemes, have a look at the documentation
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation>
* Look at what is already existing
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146>.
Please note that Special:Search and the search
bar on the top right corner of pages is not
supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this.
* Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme>
* If a property that you need is missing, you can
suggest it here
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes>
* Discuss about how to model words and ask
questions on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data
* Report bugs or issues that you may encounter:
either on the talk page or on Phabricator, if
you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add
the tag |Lexicographical data|, and add
Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber)
About mass imports and tools
We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from
any source for the moment*. There are several
reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned
above, the release is a first version and we need to
observe how our system reacts to the manual edits
before starting considering automatic ones. The
system may not be ready for big massive imports at
the beginning. Second reason is legal.
Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under
CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to
make sure that the data they will add is compatible
with CC0. For more information, you can have a look
at the advice of WMF Legal team
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data>.
Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with
the communities before considering any import from
the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been
putting a lot of efforts during years to build
definitions, and we should be respectful of this
work, and discuss with them to find common solutions
to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of
it together.
We also suggest you to wait a bit before building
tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data.
The interface and its API are probably going to
evolve during the next months, and the system may
not be stable enough to support such tools. We will
inform you as soon as it will be possible.
Next steps
After this first release, some improvements will be
made on a very regular basis (new deployments every
week). Once you tried playing with the new data,
feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking
especially to know what are the most important
features for you to be worked on next.
* What did you experiment while editing
lexicographical data? What went wrong or was
unexpected?
* What bugs or troubles during the process did you
encounter?
* What are the features that are, in your opinion,
the most important? Which one should we work on
next?
If you’re interested in following the discussions
and further announcements about lexicographical
data, I encourage you to follow
Wikidata:Lexicographical data
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data>
and its talk page, where we will discuss about how
to organize and structure data, new features to be
added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of
other things.
Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled
on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get
interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or
ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of
our community processes and our ways to organize
content. They will need help and support as well as
links to useful resources to understand how the
Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be
kind and patient, both with other editors and with
the software that may not work exactly as we want it
to at the beginning :)
Thanks to the people who tested the model and the
interface before the release, who showed support and
curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata!
If you have any question or idea, feel free to write
on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me.
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