Nicholas,
I wonder what will happen where there are already (supposed to be) "official" HTTP URIs for entities in these aggregations?
In the domain I'm researching right now, there's a proposal that curators of the "thing" also curate (yes, pretty much curate) its URI:
http://www.cidoc-crm.org/URIs_and_Linked_Open_Data.html
(see also discussion: http://cidoc.meta.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=192)
Would the owner of the base URL be able to sign into Wikidata and just update the metadata there?
In which case, wouldn't it get pretty close to being a WikiDOI?
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>From <http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Deployment_schedule>
:
If everything goes well, we will deploy a new version of the Wikibase
extension today to Wikidata, probably around 7-9pm UTC (i.e. in the next
few hours). Things might go wrong, deployment might stall, or we might need
to retract. The API will change quite a bit (you can see the new API
on the test
repository <http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/>) and also there are a
few fixes and new features (List of pages without a label, yay!) that will
be rolled out. The API will very likely break the bots, but should be quite
stable then (no promises, though). No Phase 2 features will be rolled out
yet (we removed them from deployment code). We would love to get feedback
and bug reports. A lot of code has changed in the backend to enable the
data propagation to the clients.
If all goes well, we will also deploy a public client to use the data from
Wikidata. If the repo, the client, and the synchronisation work well for a
few days, we will aim at deployment to the Hungarian Wikipedia. If anything
goes wrong, we won't deploy to the Wikipedias in 2012, but in early 2013
(as we want to make sure that we are available for fixing Wikipedia in case
something goes wrong).
So, this is the current plan. Things might change, but here is to keep you
posted.
Cheers,
Denny
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Hi all,
I'm curious what folks here think about making some noise about the
two most recent additions to the Wikimedia family around January or
February. Wikivoyage is still finishing up the beta phase (image
transfers, logo import etc.) this month, and Wikidata isn't live as a
repository yet -- but we could set a target date that would work for
both projects.
What I'm imagining is an actual banner on Wikimedia projects
announcing the launch of both Wikivoyage and Wikidata, pointing to a
landing page explaining what these projects are, how to participate,
etc. That page could be drafted on Meta. Then interested folks would
visit the projects to learn more and get involved.
Wikimedia projects obviously have an enormous reach and I think this
could help create awareness and build community -- but it could also
be an unwelcome influx in the early stages. This could be regulated by
running a banner only for logged in users, or x% of readers.
Thoughts?
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Hello,
This appeared on Twitter but I thought I would email as well and introduce
myself. I am the author of http://dbpedialite.org/, which I created as an
experiment, to try exposing linked data as RDF using the Wikipedia API.
The things I was trying to improve were:
1) Stability of identifiers - using the pageid in the URL instead of the
page title. This was a bit problem for us at the BBC - particularly when
doing off-line comparisons in our own databases.
2) Speed of updates - dbpedia can take many months to update.
3) Reliability - we have had a lot of problems with dbpedia being offline.
The main thing that the BBC needs is the stable identifiers - so that we can
link to other systems both internal and external. We don't actually use the
data from dbpedia (at the moment).
As such Wikidata already provides all the functionality that we need! I
think it is just a matter of time until the topic coverage is good enough.
We are currently working on adding all of the UK Members of Parliament and
Constituencies to Wikidata - which is something that we hope to use in a
prototype.
I plan to change dbpedialite to use Wikidata identifiers in URLs in the not
too distant future:
http://dbpedialite.org/things/Q192
And then if/when wikidata.org supports RDF formats, I will probably turn it
off.
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Hi all!
Our demo system needs some love to get the same software versions as
wikidata.org. On Monday the demo repo and client (on
http://wikidata-test.wikimedia.de/) will be unavailable for some time
after 9:00 a.m. GMT / 10 a.m. CET.
Thanks in advance for your patience.
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Hello,
What is the canonical URL for a Wikidata page?
All of these currently work and none are a 301 redirect:
http://wikidata.org/wiki/Q192http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q192http://en.wikidata.org/wiki/Q192
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Hi Denny, Finn, Sven, et al.,
I was hugely encouraged by your discussion on the Wikidata list RE: importing data, licence chains etc.
My own work on www.linkedheritage.eu<http://www.linkedheritage.eu> is covering the exact same issues you raised (database right, import from multiple source databases, open licenses for reuse) plus a couple more special to commercial sector data providers (risk and benefit of contributing to open data sources; commercial reuse potential of existing open data)...
If anyone is interested in sharing some thoughts just on these topics, especially the technical and organisational feasibility of managing this rights info, on or off list, I would be grateful and happy to share my summaries of the issues.
Best wishes,
Michael Hopwood
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Hi,
Is there a test client system that works with the live wikidata.org? I'd
love to test it as early as possible.
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